Simon.

just some thoughts in reply.

1..imho these are gonna be very exciting times for users of pc's and macs.
its been boring for too looong imho....lol.
(only sooo much can be crammed on a wafer....)
and moores law has been screwed up by the tech plateuing.

2..i'm glad the mac silicon has come out because (like duellists of yore...) its going to force intel and amd to 'up the ante' in order to maintain market share.
which is good for consumers. ie more power and hopefully lower prices which i hope will help poorer musicians.
some higher end processors the pricing is too high imho.

THUS..i would dare anyone to assume intel or amd are just gonna roll over and cede the market to the m series. we shall see.
my call is intel and amd will fight like heck for the revenue.
what i'm suggesting is that the m technology might be slaying the market right now...but...as weve'e seen over the years...
when it comes to tech, what is 'hot' today isnt later in time.
there is a limit to arm tech like any technology.
and like any tech there are limits and positives and negatives.
(lots of research articles on arm vs x86 on the net.)

3..what really interests/excites me is how apple r n' d evolves the m series silicon going forward..and how far they can take it.
will they astound us all ? or...will the m series tech plateau. ??
will something else from intel or amd beat the m series ?

4..lets remember us musos are just one sub market.
lots of people out there just wanna surf the net/email/office tasks etc etc. and thus this new fanless hold in ones hand pc that i just got for 140 bucks off amazon is perfectly capable of these tasks....sure..it would not do 200 tracks and a host of plugins but for s's and giggles rb reported 74 track capability. which i would prolly halve (to have a buffer ) to 30 tracks. in summary it would be fine for knocking out a rough song demo with a few tracks.
in fact the little beast has surprised me....it boots into win in just a few secs and even latency mon gave it the green light dpc wise. but heavy duty stuff...of course not.
(but i'm not useing it for song production of course and keep my song production pc sandboxed.)
but my little 140 buck beast i would suggest with more powerfull next gen processor...at that price point could with the proper cpu boosts handle your 200 tracks for a peanut price in a few years... we shall see.
(LOL...lets not forget the little pi that just got a new processor..). dont get me wrong..lots of respect to apple for the m series...but lets not forget there IS competition from under 200 buck refurbs AND new mini pc's.
talking about refurbs..

5..re..that hp z series for the daft low price of 180 bucks.
ive done very fancy songs on way way less for myself/friends/clients..
in days of yore.
i agree...its not up to the m series class...but...for years many studios have used those workstation class pc's (and dell/lenovo equivalents) for music production.
the thing i really like about those xeon workstations is the expandability. in summary imho yep not up to the m series but still a beast. nobody can complain for such a crazy low price imho.
(it was over 2k when new i believe.)

as i said...exciting times.

fyi i have just tested many different daws and kept coming back to rb.
so...i would love to hear if rb could run in win emulation on m series silicon without probs.

ps...btw..microsofts Pete Brown (who owns a pretty impressive studio) has a midi thread on gearspace..
talking of which...yes...over the years the ms os has garnered various critiques...but...its obvious from the link below ms is makeinga lot of effort for us song creators useing its os.
i gotta be fair...my production pc works day in/out with nary a squeak.
the key with pc imho is to choose the right pc for music production instead of useing any old pc with bad dpc etc stats.

https://gearspace.com/board/music-computers/1424835-windows-midi-services-info.html
interesting info about midi stack etc etc.

happiness.

om

Last edited by justanoldmuso; 09/18/24 04:41 AM.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..)
https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs
(90 songs created useing bb/rb)
(lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)