Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 2,148
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 2,148
a recent post of mine found a bug which was reported to the developers, but BIAB 2025 willl be here in about six weeks. so will there be any new patches for BIAB 2024? I seem to remember there have been a few bugs reported since the last build. or will we have to wait until 2025 is released for the bugs to be fixed?

presumably the Mac version will be getting patches until mid 2025.

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 892
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 892
The software is never finished until the last user dies.


biab2026(Mac) Latest Build
Mac OS (Latest)
Apple Mac Mini M2 pro 32GB Ram
Logic Pro (latest or pretty close)
Blue and White Sea Star
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,108
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,108
Originally Posted by Bob Calver
a recent post of mine found a bug which was reported to the developers, but BIAB 2025 willl be here in about six weeks. so will there be any new patches for BIAB 2024? I seem to remember there have been a few bugs reported since the last build. or will we have to wait until 2025 is released for the bugs to be fixed?

presumably the Mac version will be getting patches until mid 2025.
Bob, I wouldn't be surprised if there's another build released for 2024. December is still several weeks away. The company never seems to disclose when a new build might become available. They certainly released an update for 2023 in October last year.

We all just wait and see what might happen...


BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,933
J
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
J
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,933
Originally Posted by Bob Calver
will we have to wait until 2025 is released for the bugs to be fixed?
I've been waiting since 2012! laugh

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,108
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,108
Originally Posted by JohnJohnJohn
I've been waiting since 2012! laugh
Patience, JJJ. Patience... grin


BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,933
J
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
J
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,933
Originally Posted by AudioTrack
Originally Posted by JohnJohnJohn
I've been waiting since 2012! laugh
Patience, JJJ. Patience... grin
Oh, I'm all about patience these days. I've already gone through the 5 stages of software grief with BIAB!

Denial: "There's no way it works like that! It must be me."

Anger: "Well, I'll be danged. It DOES work like that. That really makes me mad!"

Bargaining: "Maybe if we agree to forego new features they'll clean up the issues?"

Depression: "Nope. They won't."

Acceptance: "I just don't care! I love what the software DOES do! And what it doesn't do? Well, I can do that in my DAW!"

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 7,321
Veteran
Online Content
Veteran
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 7,321
A wide consensus is, which is evident from a few large discussions on the forum this year, people want existing issues and shortcomings fixed & existing features optimized for better workflow... which includes optimizing GUI. Before introducing brand new tools.
2024 update was a good step in the right direction. I hope 2025 will be even better.

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 877
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 877
Originally Posted by JohnJohnJohn
Originally Posted by AudioTrack
Originally Posted by JohnJohnJohn
I've been waiting since 2012! laugh
Patience, JJJ. Patience... grin
Oh, I'm all about patience these days. I've already gone through the 5 stages of software grief with BIAB!

Denial: "There's no way it works like that! It must be me."

Anger: "Well, I'll be danged. It DOES work like that. That really makes me mad!"

Bargaining: "Maybe if we agree to forego new features they'll clean up the issues?"

Depression: "Nope. They won't."

Acceptance: "I just don't care! I love what the software DOES do! And what it doesn't do? Well, I can do that in my DAW!"

Hahaha, this is so on point, I actually wrote something similar in a post back in 2019--it was actually part of a longer post that was very favorable to BiaB , but the relevant part was:

"So here I stand, where many of you have stood before: I've gone through the denial (oh, I'll just email PGM about this, and it will be fixed in a jiffy) anger (why the hell isn’t this being fixed?!), bargaining (if this is not fixed, I won't upgrade next year), and depression (this program sucks, why do I bother), and now I'm at that acceptance phase (it is what it is, best print out a copy of the Serenity Prayer, and keep it within sight at all times when running the program [As an aside, we've seen this process dozens of times with new forum users, and we will no doubt see it many times again, so please let the new users vent, it's hard to drop anywhere from $130 to $670 for a program that, let's be honest, does not quite work as advertised])."


Band-in-a-Box 2024. Custom Build Desktop PC W/ Windows 10 Home 64-bit. CPU: Intel Core i5-9600k @ 3.7GHz (6 core x 6 threads) RAM: 16GB DDR4. Storage 238GB SSD + 2.7 TB HDD. GPU: ZOTAC NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,108
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,108
I do hope that they release a new Build prior to 2025. There are too many issues to mention, and they really need to be addressed as part of this year's deliverables.


BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 6,506
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 6,506
Never. And that is definitely not a complaint. Kudos to PG Music for fixing them as the arrive. Not every software company is so dilligent.

It's a big, multi-funcitonal, complicated app that gets improved year to year. There are users with so many different computers, computer configurations, and other apps that compete for resources that it's probably impossible for a program this complicated to predict how it will work in every users situation.

So, IMO, PG is doing a great job.


Notes ♫


Bob "Notes" Norton smile Norton Music
https://www.nortonmusic.com

100% MIDI Super-Styles recorded by live, pro, studio musicians for a live groove
& Fake Disks for MIDI and/or RealTracks
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 2,670
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 2,670
Originally Posted by Notes Norton
Never. And that is definitely not a complaint. Kudos to PG Music for fixing them as the arrive. Not every software company is so dilligent.
That depends a lot on how one interprets "stop patching".
Looking theough the history up patches and updates, there is only one most-recent patch of a release since 2007 that is in the subsequent year, and that's 2019's build 644, which was released in January 2020.
That implies to me that they stop bug-fixing each release roughly when the new version is released. If one doesn't "upgrade", the bug-fixes stop, but if one does "upgrade" one gets a bunch of additional new bugs.

As far as I'm concerned that means they stop patching bugs at each new release. I think one reason for that is that at each new release it's "all hands to the pumps" to deal with the new bug reports from users of the new release.


Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful.
AVL:MXE Linux; Windows 11
BIAB2026 Audiophile, a bunch of other software.
Kawai MP6, Ui24R, Focusrite Saffire Pro40 and Scarletts
.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,593
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,593
Although it’s not about bugs per se, I give PG Music credit for re-releasing some RealTracks with fixes or notation added or better sound. Some of these improvements affect sounds that are years old.


BIAB 2026 Win Audiophile. Software: Fender Studio One 8, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Fender Quantom HD8 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 6,506
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 6,506
I suppose fixing bugs on old relases isn't worth their time. PG isn't a big company like Apple or Microsoft, so resources are limited.

I've been here since there were 3 instruments, and no user styles, intros or endings. With new features come new bugs, and with the variations in user setups, it's difficult to do a release without someone's computer not liking it.

PG seems to stay alive with it's annual releases. I prefer that to a subscription plan. It gives the users a choice. Every year new features are added, and many of them are what we users wish for.

I have some wishes that were granted, others not yet, but all in all I find PG to be one of the better small software companies.


Insights and incites by Notes ♫


Bob "Notes" Norton smile Norton Music
https://www.nortonmusic.com

100% MIDI Super-Styles recorded by live, pro, studio musicians for a live groove
& Fake Disks for MIDI and/or RealTracks
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 2,670
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 2,670
Originally Posted by Matt Finley
Although it’s not about bugs per se, I give PG Music credit for re-releasing some RealTracks with fixes or notation added or better sound. Some of these improvements affect sounds that are years old.
Agree and I don't mean to disparage what they do do.

Originally Posted by Notes Norton
I suppose fixing bugs on old relases isn't worth their time. PG isn't a big company like Apple or Microsoft, so resources are limited.
Also agree.

I wrote more but have binned it.

Last edited by Gordon Scott; 10/14/24 12:26 PM. Reason: typo

Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful.
AVL:MXE Linux; Windows 11
BIAB2026 Audiophile, a bunch of other software.
Kawai MP6, Ui24R, Focusrite Saffire Pro40 and Scarletts
.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 2,148
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 2,148
Same here PG do a great job.

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 2,148
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 2,148
getting closer to BIAB 2025 and no sign of a patch to fix what Audiotrack described as lots of bugs.

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 Mac Special Offers Extended Until May 31st!

Good news- we've extended our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® special offers until May 31, 2026!

Band-in-a-Box® 2026 is packed with major new features, enhancements, and an incredible lineup of new content! The program now sports a sleek, modern GUI redesign across the entire interface, including updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, a new dark mode option, and more. The brand-new side toolbar provides quicker access to key windows, while the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, creating a flexible, clutter-free workspace. We have an amazing new “AI-Notes” feature. This transcribes polyphonic audio into MIDI so you can view it in notation or play it back as MIDI. You can transcribe an entire track (all pitched instruments and drums) or focus on individual parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, and much more!

There are over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®.

When you order purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2026 before 11:59 PM PDT on May 31st, you'll also receive a Free Bonus PAK packed with exciting new add-ons.

Check out the Band-in-a-Box® for Mac packages page to find the best package for you.

Holiday Weekend Hours

It's Victoria Day Long Weekend in Canada. Our Customer Service hours are:

Saturday, May 16: Closed
Sunday, May 17: Closed
Monday, May 18: 8:00am - 4:00pm

Regular hours
resume Tuesday, May 19th!

Today's the Last Day of the Band-in-a-Box 2026® for Mac Special!

Order before 11:59pm PDT today (May 15, 2026) to save up to 50% off your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® upgrade and receive a FREE Bonus PAK loaded with great new Add-ons to use with this new version!

Don't wait - order today!

Check out all the new features in the redesigned Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!

Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac - Special Offers End at 11:59pm PDT on Friday, May 15th, 2026!

Order before 11:59pm PDT on Friday, May 15th and SAVE up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® version 2026 for Mac Upgrade packages... and that's not all! With your version 2026 for Mac purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks... that's 222 NEW RealTracks available with version Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac!

Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® today for as little as $49! Check out the Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all available purchase options.

Learn more about the Free Bonus PAK and 49-PAK here.

If you have any questions about which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We're here to help!

202 New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2026!

With Band-in-a-Box® 2026, we've released 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 468-488) in a variety of genres—featuring your most requested styles!

Jazz, Funk & World (Sets 468-475):
Our new jazz, funk & blues RealTracks include a groovin’ collection of RealTracks and RealDrums! These include more requested “soul jazz” RealTracks featuring artists Neil Swainson (bass), Charles Treadway (organ), Brent Mason (guitar), and Wes Little (drums). There are new “smooth jazz” styles (4), which include a RealTracks first: muted trumpet, as well as slick new smooth jazz brushes options for drums. Blues lovers will be thrilled—there are more “classic acoustic blues” styles, including guitar (5), bass (4), and drums (10) with blues master Colin Linden, featuring understated and tasty background acoustic soloing, plus brushes drums and acoustic bass. There are also new electric blues RealTracks, including electric blues with PG favorite Johnny Hiland (3) and soulful electric slide guitar from Colin Linden (4). If you love funk & gospel, there are great new options this year, including gospel organ (3) from Charles Treadway, as well as new funk, tango, and rock ’n’ roll drums (3) and bass (1). And for big, bold arrangements, we have uptempo soul horns (4) featuring a three-part hip horn section with options for a full mix or stems of each individual horn — plus an accompanying rhythm section (4) of drums, bass, guitar, and electric piano!

Rock & Pop (Sets 476–482):
Our new rock & pop RealTracks bring a powerful mix of requested favorites, fresh genres, and modern chart-inspired styles! We have more of our popular “Producer Layered Acoustic Guitars (15)” featuring Band-in-a-Box favorite Brent Mason. We’ve continued our much-requested disco styles (10), and added new Celtic guitar (5) with a more basic, accessible approach than our previous Drop-D or DADGAD offerings. There are also highly requested yacht rock styles (17), inspired by the smooth, polished soft-rock sound of the late ’70s and early ’80s — laid-back grooves, silky electric pianos, warm textures, elegant harmonic movement, and pristine production aesthetics. Fans of heavier styles will love our new glam metal (13), capturing the flashy, high-energy sound of ’80s arena-ready guitar rock. We also have a set of rootsy modern-folk rock (18), with a warm, organic sound combining contemporary folk textures and driving acoustic strumming. And we’ve added lots of new modern pop styles (16) — the kinds of sounds you’re hearing on the radio today, featuring exciting new drums, synths, and cutting-edge RealTracks arrangements.

Country, & Americana (Sets 483–488):
Our new country & Americana RealTracks deliver a rich collection of acoustic, electric, and roots-inspired styles! We have new country pop (9) with legendary guitarist Brent Mason. There is also a potpourri (14) of bouzouki, guitars, banjo, and more, perfect for adding texture and character to contemporary acoustic arrangements. We’ve added funky country guitar (5) with PG favorite Brent Mason, along with classic pedal steel styles (5) featuring steel great Doug Jernigan. There are more country songwriter styles (8) that provide intimate, rootsy foundations for storytelling and modern Americana writing. Finally, we have “background soloing” acoustic guitar (12) with Brent Mason — simpler, but still very tasty acoustic lines designed to sit beautifully behind vocals or act as a subtle standalone solo part.

Check out all the 202 new RealTracks (in sets 468-488)!

And, if you are looking for more, the 2026 49-PAK (for $49) includes an impressive collection of 20 bonus RealTracks, featuring exciting and inspiring additions to add to your RealTracks library. You'll get new country-rhythm guitar styles from PG Music favorites Johnny Hiland and Brent Mason, along with modern-pop grooves that capture today’s radio-ready sound! There are also new indie-folk styles with guitar, bass, 6-string bass used as a high-chording instrument, acoustic guitar, and banjo. Plus, dedicated "cymbal fills" RealDrums provide an added layer that work very well with low-key folky styles with other percussion.

The 2026 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2026 49-PAK!

2026 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!

With your version 2026 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!

These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!

This Free Bonus PAK includes:

  • The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK: -For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles. -For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles. -For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
  • MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
  • Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
  • Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
  • Playable RealTracks Set 5
  • RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
  • SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
  • iOS Android Band-in-a-Box® App
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
  • 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
  • FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
  • MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
  • Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
  • Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
  • RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
  • SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)

Learn more about the Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!

XPro & Xtra Styles PAK Sets On Sale Now - Until May 15, 2026!

All of our XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAKs are on sale until May 15th, 2026!

It's the perfect time to expand your Band-in-a-Box® style library with XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs. These additional styles for Band-in-a-Box® offer a wide range of genres designed to fit seamlessly into your projects. Each style is professionally arranged and mixed, helping enhance your songs while saving you time.

What are XPro Styles and Xtra Styles PAKs?

XPro Styles PAKs are styles that work with any version (Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition) of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). XPro Styles PAKS 1-10 includes 1,000 styles!

Xtra Styles PAKs are styles that work with the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). Xtra Styles PAKs 1-21 includes 3,700 styles (and 35 MIDI styles)!

The XPro & Xtra Styles PAKs are not included in any Band-in-a-Box® package.

The XPro Styles PAKs 1-10 are available for only $29 ea (reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Listen to demos and order now! For Mac or for Windows.

The Xtra Styles PAKs 1-21 are available for only $29 ea (reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the Xtra Styles PAK Bundle for only $199 (reg. $349)! Listen to demos and order now! For Mac or for Windows.

Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 19 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version as they require the RealTracks included in the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

Supercharge your Band-in-a-Box today with XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAK Sets!

Forum Statistics
Forums57
Topics86,320
Posts803,333
Members40,096
Most Online64,515
Apr 8th, 2026
Newest Members
kmmwlton32, Hikes77, guitarharry, Duncan-RTFM, 65Jaguar
40,096 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 110
vicarn 96
DC Ron 84
rsdean 81
dcuny 61
Today's Birthdays
CountryTrash, Júlíus Hraunberg
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5