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I would like to see a video where PG Music effectively demonstrates how to use their search functions to find an existing style or combination of instruments that matches the groove of an existing popular song (preferably 4-5 different songs that are well known in the genre rock, country, pop)
Conditions would be:
• the song should be available in the title database
• the title search to end up in ca 500 matches in no particular order (that is what normally happens)
• from there on how to effectively narrow it down to a very good match (without spending days on it and give up)
• in the final result/match one should directly be able to hear that this is a very, very good match of the underlaying groove/ character of the original song (undisputed)


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Yes, a pragmatic demonstration video would be useful, especially with fine-tuning tips, etc.

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Originally Posted by shlind
I would like to see a video where PG Music effectively demonstrates how to use their search functions to find an existing style or combination of instruments that matches the groove of an existing popular song (preferably 4-5 different songs that are well known in the genre rock, country, pop)
Conditions would be:
• the song should be available in the title database
• the title search to end up in ca 500 matches in no particular order (that is what normally happens)
• from there on how to effectively narrow it down to a very good match (without spending days on it and give up)
• in the final result/match one should directly be able to hear that this is a very, very good match of the underlaying groove/ character of the original song (undisputed)

Conditions one through three are easy but unnecessary. Condition four is impossible because it requires software to have the tangible ability to know one's feelings and thoughts they have about an existing popular song.

A user recently posted for assistance in searching for matching groove, style and instruments for "Somewhere under the Rainbow" and listed seven steps he took for his search and I think it produced over 400 styles. Although there were seven steps, there were missing steps that made it possible to reduce the search results to 3 styles of which two of the styles were MultiStyles that were groove variations of single styles, producing eleven possible Style selections. These Styles met all of the "requirements" of instruments, groove and matched the original song but there was no way to know if any of these eleven styles were acceptable to the user's mindset.

My favorite method to capture the groove of an existing popular song is to start my project with a midi file of that song. This normally gives me the original key, tempo, chord progression and instruments that fit the existing popular song with the groove as well. A Midi site that allows a 30-45 second demo download is all that's needed to give BIAB StylePicker all the information necessary to quickly find a suitable style.

The second thing I normally do is to enter 'XPRO' into the Filter String. This reduces my search data base to 800 generic Styles that will fit almost any popular song in the well known genres like rock, country, pop, and jazz. An XPRO search gives a good balance of midi styles, RealTrack and Midi combo styles and RealStyles.
The XPRO packages are specifically designed to be used in packages with the least amount of content but also designed to be as versatile as possible. This equates into XPRO being a valuable starting point for quick searches. XTRA Paks, Bonus Paks, and 48 Paks can also limit an initial search from ten thousand styles to hundreds.

Newer versions of BIAB now can search for instruments by the General Midi (GM) number. So, if a song requires a rock organ (19) use that number as a search filter.

Use the 'What add-on's do I have' window to narrow a search by locating and choosing a Set # to search by. This is very useful to focus into specific genres like ballads, metal, and such.

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Condition four is impossible because it requires software to have the tangible ability to know one's feelings and thoughts they have about an existing popular song.
Previously, before AI stepped into the picture, I would have agreed. Lately, I would be a brave person to make that exact same statement. I'm not advocating, but a bit of 'watch this space' is certainly required. AI has feelings too, ya' know cry


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