all.

I try hard to be a consensus builder and discuss topics in a friendly collegial fashion.
it really disturbs me when someone suggests a particular aspect of a pg music app or all of it is c**p.
like some comments weve seen over the years on these forums.

i always disagree with such comments because pg apps are very powerfull tools.
one only has to see the benefits eg the user showcase plus music education
institutions plus commercial songs and adverts and things like songs for films etc etc.

the problem for some new users, and i agree with rob helms is that word 'familiarity'.
these are very very deep products because pg i suspect is trying to cater to a very diverse user base world wide with many different needs.
(like we used to have when i worked in tech.;..its darn difficult to keep everyone happy.)
because of how deep feature wise these products are imho users must commit to 'dive right in with both feet' in order to get the best from these apps.
like charlie and many other users.

it worries me that 'lurkers' in the background who might be potential buyers might run for the hills on reading negative comments and thus lose products that could really help their song creation endeavours.
thus we all suffer...pg included. pg loses revenue and possibly we all lose great new features or such features might be delayed.

i'm a half glass full kinda guy and i know all of us want to continue to see pg be successfull.
thus i laud those pg users that devote their time to helping new users.

what i DO think is there is an urgent need for is a chart rather like the pg packages chart showing feature differences tween bb and rb.
this i feel would clear up any confusion for new users.
because this seems to crop up occasionally.

there also great 'synergy' a user can realise by using bb and rb together rather than an either or.
for example ive done lots of songs whereby ive used bb to generate 'song bed tracks' which ive then dragged over into rb for its advantages.
although i use the great reaper less these days due to advances in rb...
reaps AND bb AND rb all support drag and drop.
so there is another synergy option. (or useing any non pg daw that supports D n'D....lol.)

i suggested rb with regard to the op need cos i just find i can move chunks of midi and audio data around easier in rb and many midi features... eg as in i like that drum fill at bar 48 and want it for bar 55...sorta idea.
i often wonder how many users have discovered tricks in rb bars view for example.
this is not to belittle bb which i hope will get more daw like features.
(but i know some disagree with this. and of course its their right.
i just feel that bb new fab tracks view could be a market slayer with not ALL dawlike features maybe with the nost important ones.
for example i'm not expecting spectral editing daw features in bb.)

bottom line yes bb has lots of nice features but so does rb.
i try to take advantage of the plusses of each.

Funk as has been pointed out maybe look at rb sometime for lots of midi features i cant go into as i would be typing a book. see the pg rb manual on this site to see how rb might be usefull to you.

happiness.

om

Last edited by justanoldmuso; 10/25/24 09:40 AM.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..)
https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs
(90 songs created useing bb/rb)
(lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)