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The biggest eyesore and real estate parasite is the "radio bar" at the top. I added that as a feature request back in July - id# 4735 I dig it. At this point, nobody, except for PGM, knows what 2025 might bring. Lots of excellent ideas have been put forward though. Soon 
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Even the "The minimal mode's Custom tab " does not allow me to rename the tab, and does not allow me to create more than 1. Also is would be nice if I could move the toolbar to where I want, floating would be good if it could stay where I put it. I would just like to see, users be able to customize (hide/show, move and pin windows, create toolbars) BiaB to their needs Robert 
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Hi Robert. +++ HERE +++ is the forum section to suggest new features or updates to Band-in-a-Box. Placing your ideas there gives everyone an opportunity to review and discuss the ideas without throwing the original thread off track.
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Robert,
I requested "modular" approach for quite some time. Recent 2024 BIAB introduced many floating (non modal / non jailed) windows that let you work on the project, make changes in views (Chords, track, Audio) and on actual floating tool windows without the need of closing them. In my humble opinion, the time is perfect to tune up GUI and modular is the way to go, as you can cook your own interface (or use a factory default). In any case, this could be an interesting discussion. Please use Jim's link and start a thread. I will definitely support your particular request or something broader.
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Thanks, both Jim and Rustyspoon# Robert
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WOW, what an incredible response.
We are nearly there with this years release and I am hoping it's Not just a pile of Real Tracks again., plus a few features. I was enthralled at the efforts made by Steinberg in v14 and Sequoia Pro is amazing. I've tinkered with AI music but it has a long, long way to go.
What will impress me is more attention to Midi and an improved Melody maker with a lot more choice. More attention to emotive tracks and some new Soloists that are not Jazz influenced for once. Counterpoint in Strings sections with more emotive expression, not just bland. This would convince me to stay with the one piece of software I have been with since floppy disks.
Seasons Greetings to all.
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We should see something new soon, right? This is my first year back after many years away and I didn't really follow the update schedule before that.
It looks like last year there was an announcement around December 5th. The year before that it was November 30th, and the year before that it was December 2nd. I think those were also in the Tuesday - Wednesday - Thursday range.
Added: the year before that was November 28th, so we're already on the late side of the range in the past 4 years.
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BTW, the last 3 releases were all between 5 and 9 am o_o
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I just wonder why they don't publish the release date like most other companies do ..... so people know.
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I just wonder why they don't publish the release date like most other companies do ..... so people know. If history repeats itself, we won't have long to wait. Probably soon is my guess.
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Does anyone know if there is a list of which bugs that have been fixed in the 2025 release. I can't find any.
In patches during during the year there is often a list with the issues/bugs etc that have been fixed.
I wonder if it is a similar list available for the major 2025 BIAB release.
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Does anyone know if there is a list of which bugs that have been fixed in the 2025 release. I can't find any.
In patches during the year there is often a list with the issues/bugs etc that have been fixed.
I wonder if it is a similar list available for the major 2025 BIAB release. Now that is a very good question. To my knowledge, the answer has always been No, and is No now. The new features are documented with new releases, but the bug fixes are not. Someone tell me if I'm wrong here. In the process of beta testing, some of these issues have been raised and addressed, but you'll just have to test and report again in separate threads if a problem persists.
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Well it's here and my only reaction so far, to be as polite as possible, is .... mmmmm.
Firstly, I did suggest the team would be looking at some form of AI. Lyrics assistance is all over the web and all are useless bar one, which I found particularly good for assisting with sonnets, (iambic pentameter). Definitely don't see the point in what BB has offered.
The stem separator may be useful for some but I haven't used it and don't intend to. I own Steinberg's Spectral Layers Pro and Hit n Mix's RipX, which are both excellent.
My biggest bug is the onslaught and barrage of all the new Style Tracks. We are already into the thousands, this makes it a complete drudge looking for something.
Mostly disappointed with the lack of improvement to the Melodists. It definitely requires improving. I also like the challenge with Midi but, precious little again.
All I can say is, if you like Real Tracks galore and can handle the myriad of choice, albeit bereft of anything that is going to inspire then ....... ENJOY.
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Well it's here and my only reaction so far, to be as polite as possible, is .... mmmmm... Same here but ... lots of us did ask for fewer new features and more cleaning up and fixing of old issues, so I have my fingers crossed that that's what we'll find.
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Well it's here and my only reaction so far, to be as polite as possible, is .... mmmmm. Same here unfortunately. I was unlikely to bother upgrading this year after the mess that was 2024, but this turns out to be even more underwhelming than I anticipated. It's a shame because I want the software to improve but they just continue to add to the mess instead of doing the opposite.
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Nothing for me either in BIAB 2025.
Stem separation with time mapping I do much better outside BIAB but I understand that some users might want this in BIAB (I have just tested it in BIAB and dropped it, will not return).
I am not at all interested in AI lyrics or similar.
I got 200 new real tracks of which many sounds really good - but I will probably not have any use for them - since I will not be able search for them or find them when need to.
I had only one whish " an improved search concept" for all content.
It has not been adressed at all (exception some improvements for midi search).
It is still the same impossible filter search as before (not to mention the title search).
Regarding bugs there is no way to know since there is no list available what have or have not been fixed.
UI I have not seen any difference of matter, eg the UI for the track view still has no cursor over the tracks.
.. and so on.
(I don't think much of what has been discussed here on the forum during 2024 has been addressed at all).
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Nothing for me either in BIAB 2025.
I got 200 new real tracks of which many sounds really good - but I will probably not have any use for them - since I will not be able search for them or find them when need to.
I had only one whish " an improved search concept" for all content.
It has not been adressed at all (exception some improvements for midi search).
It is still the same impossible filter search as before (not to mention the title search).
UI I have not seen any major difference, eg the UI for the track view still has no cursor over the tracks.
.. and so on. I'm in the same position as you but I'm trying to understand: did you buy it anyway?
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Yes I bought it.
(PlusPak $99+VAT25%.)
I thought there must be something in there (but I think I was wrong but I have not checked everything yet).
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Nothing for me either in BIAB 2025.
I got 200 new real tracks of which many sounds really good - but I will probably not have any use for them - since I will not be able search for them or find them when need to.
I had only one whish " an improved search concept" for all content.
It has not been adressed at all (exception some improvements for midi search).
It is still the same impossible filter search as before (not to mention the title search).
UI I have not seen any major difference, eg the UI for the track view still has no cursor over the tracks.
.. and so on. "I'm in the same position as you but I'm trying to understand: did you buy it anyway? I bought it and am sad to say, I too am somewhat disappointed. It seems they've added two "AI Features" just to be able to say they've added "AI". Unfortunately, what they added "Stems and Lyrics"... were already easily available from third parties and to me at least, not necessary. I was hoping for some added useful features unique to BIAB, like the long hoped for VST3 support (now included). Or, adding some of the Audio view features (Like Volume Autotomation) to the Tracks View, so you can see and work on multiple tracks at once. Or... using AI to make more intelligent style selection under song picker. I'm still am glad I did buy it, to to support PGMusic hoping they will be around for years to come.
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I had only one whish " an improved search concept" for all content. I agree with you. Improving the realtrack search function is the most important. For example, drag and drop an audio. It can recommend many realtracks that match the music. There are also better recommended chord progressions, etc. These are the most important.
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Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe
This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.
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Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®
With your version 2026 for Windows Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
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-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
- MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
- Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
- Playable RealTracks Set 5
- RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
- SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
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Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
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- MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
- Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
- RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
- SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!
Video: New User Interface (GUI)
Join Tobin as he takes you on a tour of the new user interface in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®! This modern GUI redesign offers a sleek new look with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, and a smoother workflow. The brand-new side toolbar puts track selection, the MultiPicker Library, and other essential tools right at your fingertips. Plus, our upgraded Multi-View lets you layer multiple windows without overlap, giving you a highly flexible workspace. Many windows—including Tracks, Piano Roll, and more—have been redesigned for improved usability and a cleaner, more intuitive interface, and more!
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Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
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Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
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Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
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