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Thursday, September 19, 2024 turned out to be one of the best days of my life.
My wife left that morning.
For a 5 day trip-to-the-mountains with her sister and our nieces.
I looked forward to "working on guitar".

I've had decent electric guitars for almost 50 years.
Never had a clue what to do with them.
Put 'em away and get out the acoustic.

Recently, I had been teaching myself electric-rock-rhythm.
While watching a video (on rhythm) a guy put up all 5 pentatonic patterns.

I've known about the main/first pattern for a long time (figured that out myself as a kid).
I could always noodle around with that. It was barely serviceable. Boring, no real feeling, no "music".
But I can do the backup leads and fills if ya want to play a few Jim Croce songs (did a duo act in bars). Just memorization.
I also knew there were other patterns, but I never paid much attention.
Occasionally, I've gone down the "guitar hero solo monster" rabbit hole.
Always a huge waste of time.

I still always suck.

Seeing all 5 patterns at once, it occurred to me (duh) that they fit together. (that's how clueless I was)
I decided to see if I could actually memorize them, figuring I would fail and then be able to put this away forever.
Forever.
Besides, I've realized that being a rock rhythm player is really where all the fun is anyway - and I've always got Brent to do all that soloing stuff.
So I started playing the first "box" over and over.
Then I added the 2nd box and worked at remembering that - and bouncing between those 2 boxes
- etc., etc., blah, blah..add...add...add...
....going over and over and over that. All day.
At some point, it started sounding like music.

I went to bed at 2 AM, after 10 hours of this.
On Friday, I went at it again. This time, just.... playing.
After 8 hours of that, I thought I would see if I could actually record something.
BIAB. Another hour of playing/recording.

I could not touch anything with the fingers on my left hand for 3 days.


That's the story. This is what popped out.
....what I recorded for my first attempt, that second day.
My first-ever instrumental.
Although it's really just noodling. No real song structure.
I'll call it my first journal entry of "walking a new path".
(While continuing down those others)




RealTracks in song: ~684:Bass, Electric, PopHalfNotesSync Ev 120
RealTracks in style: 1262:Piano, Acoustic, Rhythm PopShiningHeld Ev 120
RealTracks in style: 2929:Guitar, Acoustic, Rhythm PopFunkyJoe Ev16 110
RealTracks in song: 2905:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm BrightBluesyPopColin Ev 100
RealTracks in song: 1399:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm Soul70sBrightSync Ev16 100
RealTracks in song: 4249:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm BluesFunky Ev 120
RealDrums in style:PopRock16ths^01-a:Snare, HiHat , b:Snare, Ride
Shaker loop from Studio One
Two tracks of Addictive Drums
I played guitar. Fender Strat ('94) through Amplitube 5 (a preset I created)



DANCING IN OUR SOCKS






Say something.

fj

Floyd,

Sounds pretty slick to me. I’m very much in the same boat as you were when it comes to electric guitar . . . difference is I don’t have the motivation or perseverance one needs to take that next step. Clearly you do, and it shows in this excellent instrumental. Congrats on an outstanding piece of work!! All the hard work decidedly paid off!

Deej

Hey Floyd,

Pretty damn good! Yes, there is pattern and structure. I was gonna say this is dang good for a first instrumental - but, actually, this is very good, regardless if first attempt or not. Loved the sound, although I'm more of Tele guy than Strat. But you made that guitar perform like a seasoned pro. Nice tone, great distortion, and, well, nice everything. You should be very pleased with the results of the effort and time you devoted to this.

Yep, I'm impressed. And I remember those days and weeks of fingertips feeling like battery acid on an open wound. I had grooves in my fingers you could hide a telephone pole in..

This is good.

Alan

Floyd, really nicely done, you should be proud! Super feel and tone. Love where you have the distortion set and how the tone breaks up when two notes are played. Think this develops really well. With a more structured ending I'd call this done. Nice work!

Spend about 20 years using BiaB as a backing track generator for guitar solos before getting into songwriting. Working melodic ideas over a backing track can be a lot of fun.

Very crafty and amusing post, too. THANKS for sharing!!

Floyd,

That is one great jam! It sounds like an experienced and confident player. Love the tone you're getting.

I also love the backstory - it's as awesome as the instrumental!

Bob

You have good feel, and that's what I always look for first in a guitarist, if there is no feel what's the point?

And your bends are in tune, nothing worse than out of tune bends

Nice melodic lines too. I really like what you have done here, hope to hear more!

A round of applause from the crowd here, Floyd.
Perfect tone.

Vic

I really enjoyed that. Especially the struggle. The struggle is real.

I've always believed that being a solid rhythm player was way more important than being a flashy lead player. Having played in a trio for a large part of my gigging years, that was the only way to make it work. More than one venue owner/manager told us we sounded really full for being a 3 piece band. That was due to rhythm playing. My favorite rhythm player in the world: Malcom Young. Solid and always in the groove. Full concert>>

When it comes to playing the lead parts, the main thing there, at least to me, is playing tastefully. Flashy is cool and I know a few things that make people think I'm better than what I actually am, again, at least in my eyes. Shredding and tapping never really interested me much. I can do a little bit of it but prefer the tasty, soulful, from the heart kind of playing.

Add to the pentatonic boxes and patterns some scales to hit those notes that make it sound fluid.

Sore fingers.... that doesn't last too long. Gotta push through it and get some callouses going. Playing is the only way to get that and to get better. If you play, you will get noticeably better in a relatively short period of time because it sounds like you have a fairly solid base from which to work.

Nice job.... Those "vacations" are great opportunities to focus on musical things.

Much appreciated, Deej.


Thanks for that, Alan. Nice to get a thumbs up from the strong players here...

If you're not an awesome guitar player, Floyd, you sure coulda fooled me.
Also, the web presentation is perfect. One click and there we go.

Really liked this Floyd. Solid jam, and it has really feeling. That is what matters most.

Also love that tone.

"Thursday, September 19, 2024 turned out to be one of the best days of my life.
My wife left that morning."
Man, Floyd, you sure know how to start a story to grab the readers attention. You do that with your songs, too.
Hey, noodling is often the best part of a good soup. Those rabbit holes you mention are probably important, especially as your blisters develop. hehe Left brain stuff is for learning how to do it right, while that wild and crazy right-brain guy in us who imagines playing in front of thousands of screaming fans is the drive that stifles that boredom.

When I hopped over to your sock dance I could hear the passion in the blisters. Dang, if you didn't say anything, I'd say you've been playing for years, and those are hardened callouses we hear. I REALLY like your taste, but that's certainly no surprise becuase of all the other evidence you've given us. As Dave mentioned, those bends are so good they say, "I've been playing guitar since I was 3."

If this is the first time out of the box for instrumentals...I'll bet there's a lot of great stuff still in there...really fine production...great tone!

Hi, floyd jane.

First, I love the back story and the intro. Ha!

Second, that's some tasty playing. That guitar sings!

Congratulations!

floyd,
Now you know that, you can try mixing the blues scale and the major pentatonic scales together for some added fun. Same shapes different positions on the neck.
Sounds good.

Peter

That intro story was a definite rabbit hole, shock & then realization thing to read.
You sound like you were born playing lead with bits of Santana and many others haunting the fingers.
There was plenty to hod attention in the flow...much more cohesive than most BIAB soloist instrumentals.
My 1st thought was to wonder if I could get you to play lead o a song for me.
Everything fine is resource in my greedy head.

Floyd, those were some very impressive chops!
Loved that axe's tone, great work on that patch.
A very impressive first instrumental post.

PS - You can take one minor pentatonic pattern and play the same pattern up 2 frets and/or up 7 frets and it will work, i.e. sound OK. Be moving the pattern you are adding different extensions to the chord.

Deliberately taken out of context, hehehe.
Your wife will hate me

About the song, I fully agree with what Dave said (he is a guitarist after all): It's all about the feel and the notes you don't play.
All very tasteful.
More!

Really well done Floyd. Excellent playing. Loved the tone. Got a real chuckle with your description of your fretting hand after a marathon. Poor fingers can taking a beating especially if you are using lots of bends. Very cool jam. Easy to get lost in it..

Thanks, Ron. Yea, pride sorta strutted around here for a few days.
I have no desire to shred so, tone and feel will have to suffice.
I got an appreciation for that edge-of-breakup-distortion from spending many hours on Tim Pierce's channel. That's one of his main things....


Very much appreciate that, Bob...


Music to my ears, Dave.