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Hi Frankie...yea, it's all about preferences. There are so many ways to mix a song. For me as a singer/songwriter, because the "story" is so important in my view, I tend to mix these kinds of songs with the vocal out front, like a songwriter's demo. Actually the drums in this song are pretty sparse anyway, so pumping them up wouldn't help much. Also, if you read my initial post we were trying for a sound like Shania's "Home Ain't Where His Heart Is Anymore" which has a lot of reverb and quiter drums. It was more about the "feel" of the song than perhaps a "standard" mixing process. I'm rather a fan of Robert "Mutt" Lange so I wanted to play around with trying to cop his production style. Did it get it? Haha...probably not. But it was fun trying. Thanks for your comments. I really try to write meaningful, well-thought-out lyrics and avoid the trite and tired expressions you always hear. Not easy. But there are tons of great publications out there to help. The latest I'm reading now is "Shortcuts to Hit Songwriting" by Robin Frederick. As for the American country vocal style...you just have to learn to slur your words and sing thru your nose. Here are links to the lyrics for two songs I've already posted. From now on I'll make lyrics available as a link in the post for anyone who's interested. Bob Lyrics Link: Someone Else's Angel Lyrics Link: Summertown
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Its strange that you mention Mutt Lange as I actually played soccer against him when he was recording a group at Rockfield studios here in Wales.Ive known the owner Kingsley ward since the early 60s and met Mutt I believe in the 70s and he was a real down to earth guy.Cheers Frankie
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Its strange that you mention Mutt Lange as I actually played soccer against him when he was recording a group at Rockfield studios here in Wales.Ive known the owner Kingsley ward since the early 60s and met Mutt I believe in the 70s and he was a real down to earth guy.Cheers Frankie
Glad you didn't hit him in the head with the ball and damage his potential. Imagine all the great music we'd have missed!! I think Mutt and my producer and mentor, Jim Mason ( Jim Mason Productions ) may have done some work together. Jim produced lots of platinum for Poco and Firefall and wrote the hit classic "I Dig Rock And Roll Music" with Paul Stookey of Peter, Paul, and Mary. Mutt is a legend in the biz and I really admire his work.
Bob
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Bob, This is a very fine song, well written and I think the vocal is outstanding. (reminds of a combination of John Berry/Michael Martin Murphy) I also liked the guitars, the twin part at the end was very cool! The one thing I would change is to bring the drums up in the mix... But that's just me. I liked it allot. Greg
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Hey Greg...yea the drums in this style are not very phat even when turned up; it's basically side stick and kick. This style has no RD/RT and is so slow...60BPM...that it's hard to give the drums any presence. Might have to play with bringing in some RD and see what that does. The production was sort of an AB-ing experiment using Shania's "Home Ain't Where His Heart Is Anymore" as a model, which is really a great song. Check it out if you have it, or go to GrooveShark.com to listen to those drums. It's a mystery. Thanks for listening and for your nice comments. Bob
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