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If you generate up a Style with say 4 bars for each chord in A&B (or C&D with tracks from another Style) and you had a midi keyboard input same as Biab has "Window > MIDI Chord Detection" it will go to whatever bar that chord is and loop the 4 bars or go to another chord section with same chord until another chord is entered changing on the bar or beat end (whatever it's set to).
It can also have a choice of Endings.
With the Plugin Standalone these Live Arranger Styles can be all saved frozen with "Save State" just saving as a small SGU only that will instantly load "Load State" and play, just like changing tape sets in your Mellotron.
If they give the Plugin more bars than 255 like RealBand it will give more material for the Live Arranger.
With the live tempo now you can change bpm so easy on the fly.

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You can have a Live Arranger Mode button on the Plugin Standalone.
You just need to add other section colors to wok with a multi style or to create custom track sections, like with just one instrument playing.
more bars than 255 for Arranger mode,
more 4 bar endings with a color part marker
midi input chord detection and keyswitch settings
midi input synth option for right hand notes

With the "Save State" this is good to allow users to make up their unique Style/key for the Live Arranger, solo tracks can be muted if not needed.
I think this is something that can be done now with not much work.
I have shown it all working in that terrible Reaper, as Reaper detected a midi chord input it went to a region that corresponded with that chord name and part color in the Plugin smoothly and seamlessly and just looped that region until a new chord was entered.

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I tried it out and it instantly loads and plays the saved SGU data direct without having to generate up wav files, changing from one chord section to another smoothly, and changing tempo on the fly.
It's just works, I don't know how to get it not to work.

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Really interesting use case. Thanks for sharing.

This is the first time I've seen XotoPad in the wild. For those not familiar with it, FeelYourSound German owner Hauke Menges developed it around 7 years ago. He's still maintaining it. I have licenses for almost all of his apps. First rate, all of them. I never purchased XotoPad because I don't have a touch screen Windows device. If I ever pick up a Surface Pro, it will be an immediate purchase.

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From your demo photos, it looks like XotoPad can be run on a regular Windows PC and operated via a mouse instead of touch. True?

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Yes mouse or touch, I was going to make one for Biab for touch screens with AutoHotkey like the Chord Picker Tool
I don't know how long the links will work so I put them all here:
https://stash.reaper.fm/v/46803/AHK-Scripts.zip

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Long before the Ketron Event Live Arranger with Real Instruments was released I showed so many examples how this can be done using Biab tracks to create a PG Music Live Arranger, I stated that there will soon be an Arranger Keyboard released with Real Instrument recordings, and this should be acted on and not ignored.

So what I stated did come true, but whether it will ever be released by PG is another thing, maybe users would rather pay $5000 than $300 for the PG version with way more Styles, Real Instruments & Drums ?:
Examples of Intros

Whole Video

Time stamps
00:00 Intro
01:43 Presentation
02:01 4 variations
02:47 16-bar loops
04:46 Chord inversions (lowest bass note)
06:03 MIDI style vs audio style
09:14 Examples of Intros
11:31 Examples of Endings
12:38 3 tips
13:26 Modern disco
13:57 Outro & final thoughts

I said this about play direct long before. It's a shame that I spend so much time on new ideas and innovations, not for myself but for PG and it's users, and what happens with all this energy that I give, does it get ignored and deleted ? Why is Ketron now using the ideas I posted back then but was ignored here ?
Ideas and constructive criticism should be allowed, they should be engaged by PG not ignored or deleted, that is so easy to do but hardly fair on the users that spends so much time trying to improve the product while going through a lot of difficulties in their own life, it's hardly fair. I bet those that do the deleting have no problem walking or breathing.

I will have to look deeper into this as the Styles you purchase maybe able to be converted into RealTrack/Drums

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There are many keyboard arrangers, Ketron is not unique in that aspect. But Ketron is MUCH more expensive than the competition.

While there are arranger keyboards I'm not sure that PG Music wants to directly compete against arranger keyboards. While the standalone plug-in can be used as an arranger keyboard it would still need a Windows or Mac OS tablet or computer for an operating system. From an audience point of view, it's one thing to see a musician behind a keyboard and quite another to see a musician behind a laptop.


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