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I also just learned that the VAT % differs by country. It can and often is worse than that ... there can different rates within the same country, depending upon the Government's or tax authorities perception of the goods, for example in the UK, food, educational goods and publications are zero rated. But some 'luxury foods' are not classed as foods and get 20%. Fruit juice is a food, but a smoothie is classed a 'luxury' item and is taxed at 20%. "Go figure" is the expression that comes to mind. It's also liable on every transfer of goods, B2B or retail. Larger businesses claim it back on purchases and have to charge it again on sales. I'd hoped that when the UK left the EU we'd be willing to dump VAT, but I rather doubt that will ever happen.
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Here is another specific use cases for purchasing downloadable version.
Unlike spinner hard drives shipped prior years, which you can in theory open case and install as internal drives, newly shipped drives have proprietary form factor and can not be used internally. So if your plan is to install full Audiophile on internal drive and you have a fast internet, why not save on the price difference (Downloadable vs HD shipped) and buy yourself a hard drive that will fit your computer / needs, unless of course you already have one, which makes the option even more attractive?
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I hope that all that can be done is being done to help our brothers and sisters across the pond.
It appears they deal with challenges and costs that folks in the States don't deal with.
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Hello,
Great idea.
We have added an option for those who have the 2024 Audiophile, but want to upgrade to a downloadable version of the Audiophile Edition with all FLAC files for the RealTracks/RealDrums.
Reminder, this is abut 610GB of data.
Thank you!
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I think the download option also saves a lot of EU folk the extra VAT costs. I was referring to the reduced total purchase price if the SSD wasn't required. The VAT costs would only be on the software, and not including hardware.
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Yes, it was a download and I should have added Canada as also being also the same for VAT rates.
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I've been self indulgent, didn't stick to my word, concentrated on the possibility to use the 30 day money-back guarantee and... I finally bought the downloadable version of full Audiophile 2025 (from Audiophile 2024). ($169 option in the table).
My download is limited on PG's end, not at home, but it is quite fast. 400...700Mbps most of the time. I already downloaded and installed 42% in less than 2 hours. I did not have any interrupted or failing download, I set 12 parallel downloads in a different drive and it seems to work quite well. I set a different drive because I install to a fast HDD, and de-compressing and downloading on the same drive was limiting speed. I did not have to check "download / install sequentially".
Now it says 48%, ETA fluctuating between 1h - 2h. If total time ended up being 3:30, effective average speed would be 386Mbps (48MBPS). So it is practical and effective, at least from Europe at this time of the day.
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I can't even imagine....
The best affordable Internet I can get is 20mb DSL. That, assuming it would even finish, would be a week for me.
I'm willing to pay for the hard drive delivery by FedEx. It's quicker.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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Median home internet United States is 274.16.
Herb, you are getting robbed.
The download above was done at 100mb max, averaging at about 70mb (!) That was the point of the test, to see if this fairly large download could be done without issues with below average speeds.
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Misha, "DSL (Digital Subscriber Line) is a family of technologies used to transmit digital data over telephone lines. It is a type of broadband internet that allows users to be on the phone while using the internet". My brother has it. It is the less expensive way to connect to the Internet but it is also the slowest.
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Misha, "DSL (Digital Subscriber Line) is a family of technologies used to transmit digital data over telephone lines. It is a type of broadband internet that allows users to be on the phone while using the internet". My brother has it. It is the less expensive way to connect to the Internet but it is also the slowest. And it's the only option here. I'm in the woods and don't want to pay the high cost for satellite, starlink, or cellphone hotspot. It was DSL or spectrum cable. Spectrum wanted $12,000 up front to run the cable from the road to my house. We're quite a distance from the road. Something slightly north of 1000 ft. The DSL company charged their normal $50 installation. We stream Internet, streaming TV, a couple of computers, and smart phones, plus 2 magic jack phones on WiFi without any problems. And very low monthly.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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Herb will be the last man standing after the zombie apocalypse! Our fast internet won't save us!
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Mario, I used to have DSL as an upgrade from dial-up, I know exactly what it is. Imagine downloading Audiophile through dial up... That would qualify for Guinness Book entry  Herb, I feel your pain. A good friend lives in upstate NY. Same deal, company wants 10k upfront to throw a line. They promised to eventually do it for "free". Had been 20+ years T-mobile has $50 flat monthly 5G internet with free modem. I know speeds can be choppy in sticks. I live remotely too, but other friends who live nearby got that T-mobile modem - no complaints. From the top of my head, I think average speed is about 150mb. They watch movies and even have Voip phone line through that modem.
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Herb, I feel your pain. A good friend lives in upstate NY. Same deal, company wants 10k upfront to throw a line. They promised to eventually do it for "free". Had been 20+ years T-mobile has $50 flat monthly 5G internet with free modem. I know speeds can be choppy in sticks. I live remotely too, but other friends who live nearby got that T-mobile modem - no complaints. From the top of my head, I think average speed is about 150mb. They watch movies and even have Voip phone line through that modem. I might have to investigate the T-Mobile deal. As long as it's a permanent price, and not just an introductory promotion price ... That's what I'm paying now with a guarantee that it will remain the same..... Until the company gets sold.... I'm sure they have a loophole in the deal but it's not under contract so I can jump around as needed.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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Mesha, I just went to the T-Mobile website. I entered my address and.... This service is not available for my address. They have a "lite" service with data caps.... Since the TV is on practically all day.... My wife likes to watch or just have it as background noise ... I'm sure we'd hit the data caps quickly.
Reckon I will be on DSL for a while longer.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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I can't even imagine....
The best affordable Internet I can get is 20mb DSL. That, assuming it would even finish, would be a week for me.
I'm willing to pay for the hard drive delivery by FedEx. It's quicker. Oh yeah.. and I thought that my DSL was slow at 94.9Mbps download. I live in the middle of the Silicon Valley—optical nearly everywhere else but not my neighborhood. The worst of it is that I am bombarded by telemarketers trying to sell me optical that is unavailable. As for downloading, Komplete Collector's Edition takes about 30 hours to download and install. It's about 1/3 the size of BIAB Audiophile—so three–four days or so is my best guess.
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Herb, I recently cut cable tv and am doing streaming tv. I have two buildings and didn’t want to run Ethernet between them so I use a mesh router.
To get to the point, I had thought I was going to have to use a WiFi transmitter/receiver but the mesh router went the 100’
Your 1,000’ is well with the rated range of these WiFi transmitters and I found some for under a few hundred bucks. Is there a possibility of having Spectrum and your power company wire up a doghouse/barn/shed-whatever on the main road, then transmitting 400 MB internet to your house?
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Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe
This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.
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Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®
With your version 2026 for Windows Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
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Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
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Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
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Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
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Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
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Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
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