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Yeah, you're absolutely right, my wording was misunderstandable, I meant 'everything is on Steinberg Licensing ON MY COMPUTER'. I am not a native English speaker  I am confident that PG Music will figure out and solve that problem soon.
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I get a crash on scanning VST3 so quickly I cannot see which one is crashing it. No errors logged.
Bootup was optimal, set to fast [2025.1123.0, 12/15/2024 7:59:22 AM]
Bootup time in milliseconds =1,745 [2025.1123.0, 12/15/2024 7:59:22 AM]
Time to scan unknown VST plugins = 2 ms [2025.1123.0, 12/15/2024 7:59:22 AM]
Time to scan known VST plugins = 21 ms [2025.1123.0, 12/15/2024 7:59:22 AM]
Time to scan AU plugins = 0 ms [2025.1123.0, 12/15/2024 7:59:22 AM]
Time to scan ALL plugins = 23 ms [2025.1123.0, 12/15/2024 7:59:22 AM]
Scanning for plugins... [2025.1123.0, 12/15/2024 7:59:22 AM]
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PhillyJazz,
are you scanning your whole drive or specific folders that contain VSTs?
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Hello. I also get the crash closed when I ask it to scan the vst3 folder. However, yesterday I managed to get Biab2025 to recognize practically all the vst3. I will explain how to do it although I warn you that you have to go one by one of the no recognize vst3 . I also note that I have not checked that all vsts work, simply that they are now listed.
I first loaded a style with Realtracks. And in the "Plugins" tab of the mixer I right-clicked on any of the inserts of tracks that contain audio. Then I select "Choose vst3 plugins..." and a list of the FX vst3 that you have already recognized will appear. Go to the "options" button at the bottom left of that list. Click and choose "Look for vst3 plugins"
Then the file explorer will open so that we go to the folder where the vst3 are located. Usually on Windows it is: Program files/Common files/VST3. You can now check whether or not all FX vst3 have been recognized by Biab. We must know how to distinguish the FX vst from the Vsti and select an FX vst3 that is not recognized. When you select it, it will appear in the list. I didn't have any crack with this procedure
To add the Vsti3 (virtual instruments) is the same, but we will right-click on an insert in a midi track. Most Vsti3s are in the same folder as the Fx Vsts.
I hope it helps
Last edited by mgrimaldi; 12/16/24 04:47 PM.
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I'm also experiencing a crash when scanning for VST's - either fx or instruments. tried on both Real tracks and Midi tracks and still happens.
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Same problems here.
bb2025 1123
Scan crashes scanning vst3 in windows vst3 folder.
Steinberg Halion crashes sometimes at load.
There must be a huge bug in the BIAB plugin routines.
All my other software with no problems.
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We are currently testing an update to the VST3 handling - crashes with Steinberg (e.g. Halion), Native Instruments, and the other few reported problem plugins seem to have been resolved, and the patch update will be available once testing is complete.
I work here
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An update is now released that may help.
BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Slate VSX, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
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Yes, I have already installed the 1124 update and indeed there is no crash anymore when we insert Steinberg vst3 plugins into an individual track. It is an undoubted improvement. But we still can't replace Coyote with any other GM Vst3 multichannel instrument, like Halion Sonic for example.
This should be possible via the menu: "Options/preferences/midi driver/VSTi-DXi synth".
But we can't access vst3 plugins in that menu.
I can understand that there are technical reasons, so I pose it as a simple wish for future updates
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MoultiPass,
Please provide steps how you managed to get VST3 Sonic as a DEFAULT synth. I am getting what mgrimaldi getting.
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I must admit that I was wrong in what I said earlier. Well, we can choose vst3 for the default synth if we follow what Noel96 says. Noel96 : https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=834144#Post834144I've tested it with Halion sonic7 and now the problem is that I can't get it to respond to program changes when loading or changing midi styles. I will investigate the matter further. Thanks Moultipass, Noel96 and Rustypoons
Last edited by mgrimaldi; 12/17/24 04:56 PM.
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Yes, seems Noel solved that (thank you Noel) , but it was definitely not obvious from pop-up in Preferences.
"I've tested it with Halion sonic7 and now the problem is that I can't get it to respond to program changes"
Do you have "program changes" enabled in Sonic?
P.S. I was considering Sonic 7 when it came out and was beta testing for another audio software. We were able to populate GM instruments when MIDI composition called them out, but it would not do program changes. I use previous Sonic / Halion 6. Seems to work OK.
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At your question : Do you have "program changes" enabled in Sonic?
Yes. In Halion Sonic, in the options tab, the "Prog changes" checkbox is set to "GM Mode".
About Sonic / Halion 6 :
I think it was Halion Sonic SE 6 (vst2) that worked with Biab until 2022. Nothing has worked since then.
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Sonic / Halion 6 GM still works on 2025 as VST2 (Just checked)
VST3 doesn't.
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No. As I said earlier, Halion Sonic SE (vst2) stopped working when Halion Sonic7 came out. Now it is not even recognized when biab scans the "Halion Sonic SE.dll" file. But, no problem. Coyote can do the job well. Thank you Rustyspoon for your help. Best regards
Last edited by mgrimaldi; 12/18/24 05:22 AM.
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Mine is not SE .
I have Sonic3 , which came with Halion 6.
Sonic3 works as VST2 with GM program changes. I tested it yesterday.
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Unfortunately, I still get a crash when I try to load a VST. The same crash happens when I attempt a rescan.There are a few listed but nowhere near as many as I have on my system. Is there anyway to tell (in a log or crash report) why this is happening? Any other DAW I have (Reaper, Cubase) does not have this problem.
My PC is up to date BIAB 2025 and latest Windows.
Last edited by Anthony Miller; 12/18/24 08:47 AM.
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Same here with the newest update:
Unfortunately, I still get a crash when I try to load and start Halion7 VST3. Any other DAW I have (Reaper, Cubase) does not have this problem.
My PC is up to date BIAB 2025 and latest Windows.
Loading is ok, but the first click on Halion7 window and then BIAB vanishes (ends task).
Last edited by Genos Keyboarder; 12/18/24 08:54 AM.
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Anthony,
Can you be more specific please. Which particular plugin(s) are crashing your PC?
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