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I have noticed a strange issue with plugins with the new BIAB that I cannot find documented anywhere, and I appreciate anyone attempting recreate it in order to validate my concerns...
I use Klanghelm MJUCjr extensively as a simple and quick compressor plugin, along with Xfer Records Dimension Expander (DE) on some instruments for interesting effect. DE is VST2 only; MJUCjr is installed as both VST2 and VST3. However, whereas DE saves with the file and loads back in successfully, as well as saves to .tgs files and back again, MJUCjr does not in either case. MJUCjr does not save when loaded as either VST2 or VST3.
So, I de-installed MJUCjr altogether, reinstalling it as only VST2, and now it works just fine. I imagine it would work as only VST3 as well, but I haven't tried it. In other words, I am suspecting that the problem resides in having both VST2 and VST3 plugins installed simultaneously, which is possible with many plugins nowadays. Perhaps BIAB is getting confused on loading the song, when seeing both plugins available?
Well, I will say that I'm blown away by BIAB 2025!
Joel
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Thanks for the report. As you know VST3 support is new for 2025 and PG Music has stated elsewhere they are still working out the kinks. I'm sure they will find your report helpful.
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I believe I have that plugin, Klanghelm, but not installed...
Before I try to dig it out, can you be more specific.
Are you using both Klanghelm VST2 and VST3 in the same project simultaneously?
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Could not replicate. Seems VST3 saves preset of Klanghelm MJUC. I have both VST2 and VST3 installed on my system. Provide your concrete steps. Mine is a full version: MJUC ver 1.8.1 and it seems to work fine. Maybe the free version has some features disabled or was not updated in a long time? I guess this would be a question for developer specifically on his free version..., not PGM.
Last edited by Rustyspoon#; 12/20/24 01:18 PM.
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That also could happen if you have both the VST 2 and 3 in the same folder. Put all of your VST3s in one folder and have BiaB only check that folder. Does that work for you?
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I am only using the VST2 plugin at this time. I have had no further issues as long as I do not have the VST3 installed. It is possible that both were in the same folder, and this could cause some confusion in BIAB. With the VST2 only installed, I can save all plugins in .tgs files and reload them as needed. I am satisfied with this workaround since I don't really need the VST3 capability anyway, at least not for what I am doing.
Thanks for the responses. Merry Christmas, friends!
Joel
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