Originally Posted by justanoldmuso
BB user.

please take my comments as trying to help.
ie they are meant in a friendly way.
and i know we all occasionally get fed up with gear.

1..i used to get the occasional bb crash but i havent had one for rather a long time.
2..from a programming technical codeing level
one cant just say the other apps work.
i'm sure they do but bb is a very different animal imho.
its an auto accompany program and thus with different codeing routines of course.
ive often wondered why there are no competitors for bb...and i suspect its because what bb does at the codeing level is rather complex compared
to music apps that dont do auto accompany.
in summary if auto accompany was easy at the technical level we would have seen many more
bb competitors in its market space.
(btw i was a lousy programmer so i moved into management...lol.)
3..how do you install bb ? some people ive seen seem to have rather complex rig set ups.
i use a simple approach by hanging the bb shipped drive off a fast usb port and do a minimal install.
4..what is your pc config ?? processor/ram/drives etc. note pc's with high dpc internal latency can be sometimes problematic.

finally has your pc been optimised for music production ? the reason i ask is even tho one can run bb on a low spec pc i suspect bb internally is rather complex.
for example here if i run bb on an older pc with a low spec processor performance isnt optimal.
whereas (and its just a middle range ryzen cpu)
on my production pc win boots up in a few secs
as do reaps and bb and realband.

just out of interest is your production pc on the net ?
this can be a problem sometimes.
(i use a seperate el cheapo pc for the net and get no probs.)

i would be very curious how long your pc takes to boot into win from cold and once booted up how long bb takes to load.
also in rb action >> test audio performance ow many tracks capability does rb report ?
here with 2025 rb i get over 300 reported.

finally in reaps at top right what asio latency is reported ? here i get 4 to 5 millisecs ie good low latency.
ps ive tried various stem splitters but the one i'm useing in rb i'm finding i prefer for some reason i cant explain.

hope this helps somehow.
if not i tried lol.

happy new year.

om
(done a ton of songs with the reaps/bb/rb combo.)

No worries, I know you mean well.

My system is top specs.
The buffer is set at 128 for all I do (apart from when mixing in Reaper) as I need this low latency while playing guitar. By the way I have also been able to go as low as 32 samples too.

Unfortunately biab don't like my ASIO Drivers (Helix or X-Air XR-18), so I am forced to use the Windows 11 own driver.
The computer is configured for audio and as already mentioned, no issues with ALL the other audio programs. By the way, whatever issue I come across with biab, this happens with and without any other applications are or are not running.

One particular issue I experience in biab is when using a virtual grand piano within NI Kontact. It's a VST pluging. So, i can load it in biab and works as expected. I then save the song. Wen I load it again later or the song gets loaded through the jukebox, I get feedback! But I had no feedback when I selected that midi plugin for the first time. Sooooo frustrating! I have to reboot the computer in order to have that song play without feedback.

I have posted this issue in the past. PGMUSIC couldn't help but that plugin works just fine with ALL my other applications. Go figure...

I do understand that it's a complex coding, but as an end user I just want it to work. I am a very patient person but the reality is that biab has never been working smoothly since the very first version I purchased and used with various computers. It took YEARS for the developer to fix an issue with missing filing system when I was trying to view inside the Practice applet. Eventually, after some pestering on my part, it got fixed.

Every biab installation is always done with the default settings, to avoiding more issues.

Regarding RB, I only use it if I want to play a midi song for a quick practice, for anything else I use Reaper.
In Reaper, I often do mixes from the recording of a big band which often consists of 26 individual tracks. Last time I looked, I was running over 100 VST, VST2 and VST3 plugins from various companies, without a problem, so I know that the computer can handle what you throw at it.

Anyway,
Happy new year to you and everyone too!

Forgot to mention... The laptop load in around 18 seconds and use SSD.

Last edited by biab-user; 12/27/24 10:28 AM.