biab-user

thanks for the info.

here are some things to ponder.
(please note i'm not an apologist for pg or any other vendor. just trying to explain the realities of many tech firms.)

1..i dont know how your rig is set up so its difficult to comment.
all i can say is here i have no probs running bb with asio. same with my other apps.
i can switch tween apps easily.
BUT...and this is important...i'm useing a multi client driver. (see the sound interfaces thread in pg tips forum for more info on mc interfaces.)
is there any chance that when helix or xair are instantiated only one app can be used at a time ?
i couldnt find info on the net whether helix and xair are multiclient asio.
i DO understand however that behr euphoria range of audio interfaces are mc.it might be usefull if you posted pics of your bb driver settings for Helix and X-Air XR-18
and see if the rest of us can spot something.
i do know both Helix and X-Air XR-18 have asio drivers.
i dont know if this is usefull re helix...

https://line6.com/support/topic/69566-helix-asio-driver-doesnt-work-anymore-after-update-to-v380/

do net searches for helix and xair to see users driver comments.


2.re your powerfull pc.
over the years ive helped many people who once the operational pc prob was located said to me...
'but i bought the most powerfull machine'.
and the same when i worked in tech.
however sometimes still various operational probs can occur. particularly as music production is very complex compared to say doing office tasks. in summary any pc even the most powerfull sometimes need optimising for music production. for example...a high end pc might have high dpc compared to a lower end pc and versa. heres a list of pc's that have been tested
as to dpc. (the lower the microsecond count the better.)...the list is from high to low dpc ranked.
my own production pc is very near the bottom with ultra low dpc.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/DPC-Latency-Ranking-Which-laptops-and-Windows-tablets-offer-the-lowest-latency.504376.0.html

its an excellent article imho.

i always recommend to people before buying a new pc to test its dpc. or test it while in the 30 day return window useing the latency monitor utility. which i did when i got my new pc awhile back.
haveing said that i'm not implying your pc is high dpc.

3..bbuser... we all use bb different eh ?
so maybe you have located a bug i havent and thus its totally understandeable your feelings.
all i'm asking is a bit of understanding for the developer, in this case pg working within the OS. its not trivial.
it used to drive us crazy sometimes having to work day in/out within the parameters of an OS.
i always say to people take a programming course to
understand the challenges developers face.

in closing, i have many tech years behind me..
and would say its remarkeable imho how far pg have brought bb (and rb)...warts and all given the many different ways people use pc's in project studios.



happy new year.

om

Last edited by justanoldmuso; 12/27/24 02:14 PM.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..)
https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs
(90 songs created useing bb/rb)
(lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)