a track in 100 BPM, 3/4 time-signature exported from Cubase
a BIAB project 100 BPM, 3/4 time-signature with some additional instruments
What I want:
Import the .wav file into BIAB and have it all together to continue writing.
What I got:
Unaligned import. I can solve the problem by defining the start in the audio editor, but it would be much easier if I could grab the displayed waveform and move it with the mouse until it sounds best, which I have not been able to do so far. It is not tangible.
Unsynchronized import. I can change the tempo of the track until it fits, but my innocent thought was that if I import a track with the same tempo and time signature, it should just play in the same tempo. Also, sometimes the imported audio is before the beat, sometimes after, as if there's a tempo map, which I never created.
Naive as I am, I used the “Import->Audio File” menu, which obviously doesn't work. Are there any settings I need to set/remove to accomplish this simple task?
Thanks in advance for any help and/or pointers to a solution.
I just tried loading a 3/4 audio file and BIAB worked for me.
What I did was as follows...
1) Before loading the wav, I opened a 3/4 style to set BIAB to 3/4 mode.
2) Then I selected "File | Import | Import audio (WAV, MP3, etc.)".
3) I navigated to the file I wanted to load and selected it.
4) When the 'import' window appeared, I clicked on "Reset to zero" and I selected the destination track as "Audio".
5) I also set the tempo of BIAB to match the audio file.
6) Once the song was loaded, I muted** all the tracks on the mixer except the one containing the audio file. (Alternatively, I could have just soloed the Audio track.) **Muting the tracks stops them playing along with the Audio file. Unless the set-up style you initially loaded is a great match for the style of the audio, it's likely that the resulting sound from Audio and BIAB's track generation playing together could be awful.
One other thing, it is possible that the Audio file has been saved with ACID information in Cubase. If this is the case, you will probably need to set the base tempo. When the 'import' window opens (step #4 above), if you see the option to set the base tempo, add this information to the import.
If you need to set this after the import, right click on Audio (or wherever the audio is loaded), select "Track Settings" and then select "Set Base Tempo." There is also an option in the window to set BIAB to "Conform to playback tempo" (see the attached graphic). These settings may help.
This should get you up and running. I regularly generate audio in Synth V and import it into BIAB so that I can create a song.
In BIAB, imported audio also has to account for the two bar lead in exactly. Follow Noel's instruction and once imported, open the Audio Editor with the Audio Track selected. Determine where the first beat of the song is and place the curser on the first beat. Right click any where in the Window. and select Mark this point as bar 1 of the song. This should correct any misalignment if there is any. Note, the beginning of a song isn't always the location of the first beat. There may be grace notes leading the first beat.
I just tried loading a 3/4 audio file and BIAB worked for me.
What I did was as follows...
1) Before loading the wav, I opened a 3/4 style to set BIAB to 3/4 mode.
2) Then I selected "File | Import | Import audio (WAV, MP3, etc.)".
3) I navigated to the file I wanted to load and selected it.
4) When the 'import' window appeared, I clicked on "Reset to zero" and I selected the destination track as "Audio".
5) I also set the tempo of BIAB to match the audio file.
6) Once the song was loaded, I muted** all the tracks on the mixer except the one containing the audio file. (Alternatively, I could have just soloed the Audio track.) **Muting the tracks stops them playing along with the Audio file. Unless the set-up style you initially loaded is a great match for the style of the audio, it's likely that the resulting sound from Audio and BIAB's track generation playing together could be awful.
One other thing, it is possible that the Audio file has been saved with ACID information in Cubase. If this is the case, you will probably need to set the base tempo. When the 'import' window opens (step #4 above), if you see the option to set the base tempo, add this information to the import.
If you need to set this after the import, right click on Audio (or wherever the audio is loaded), select "Track Settings" and then select "Set Base Tempo." There is also an option in the window to set BIAB to "Conform to playback tempo" (see the attached graphic). These settings may help.
This should get you up and running. I regularly generate audio in Synth V and import it into BIAB so that I can create a song.
--Noel
Thanks Noel I actually did _exactly_ what you described above, the only slight difference is that I set the base tempo under “Track Settings”.
The only workaround I found was to set both the BIAB tempo and the base tempo of the imported track to 75, which happens to be 3/4 of 100, the beat per bar difference between 3/4 and 4/4. And since I tapped the tempo in Cubase 100 @ 3/4, it is correct, but unlike Cubase, BIAB seems to interpret the time signature. Not a big deal if you know how to calculate what BIAB needs, but a serious PITA if the result is not an integer because BIAB ONLY allows integers for BPM.
In BIAB, imported audio also has to account for the two bar lead in exactly. Follow Noel's instruction and once imported, open the Audio Editor with the Audio Track selected. Determine where the first beat of the song is and place the curser on the first beat. Right click any where in the Window. and select Mark this point as bar 1 of the song. This should correct any misalignment if there is any. Note, the beginning of a song isn't always the location of the first beat. There may be grace notes leading the first beat.
Yes, that's how I did it, but it was really tedious because there is no real first beat. Moving with the mouse would be much more convenient. Thanks Charlie!
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