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Originally Posted by robertw
The repeat's are your choruses Robert smile
No, not in Band-in-a-Box. A chorus and repeat are different.
A chorus starts at the end of the Intro or, if there is no Intro, at bar 1. A chorus ends at the last bar prior to the ending bars.
Repeats can be a selection of any number of bars within a chorus that are played back consecutively any number of times. Using repeats is one way to work around the 255 bar limit.


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Great conversation. Nice to see how PGM is actively asking for input. If i put together a list, it would be very similar to JeffP. I have long supported a new mixer panel that is floatable and vertical. I would like to see one similar to RBs but focused on a master channel not a main output. The master channel should have mastering fx capability. and each track should have FX capability. I would love to see in the mixer FX channels that each track can be assigned to. with an adjustable send. this would help with grouping like drum stems and such.

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I think if PGM also provided some API's so that users could write scripts to provide some customization to BiaB, also adding 48k, 96k. And multi in/outs.

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I would like to see PGM add a star rating on every style, much like a lot of companies do with patches. You highlight the star you want as a rating with clicking on the 5th star (that would be 1-5 stars) would be the highest rating. I would even go for adding one star that I could click on for a favorite.


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Originally Posted by MarioD
I would like to see PGM add a star rating on every style, much like a lot of companies do with patches. You highlight the star you want as a rating with clicking on the 5th star (that would be 1-5 stars) would be the highest rating. I would even go for adding one star that I could click on for a favorite.

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Excellent suggestion.

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I think it would be useful to also have the "star" feature on RealTracks and RealDrums as well (ie is rating the instruments)
As well as having the option to have the "stars" from the Styles pass through to the RealTracks and RealDrum lists as well.
as well as the other way around have the "stars" from the instruments pass through to the Styles list.
(all with some indication to see were the stars originate from).


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Originally Posted by shlind
I think it would be useful to also have the "star" feature on RealTracks and RealDrums as well (ie is rating the instruments)
As well as having the option to have the "stars" from the Styles pass through to the RealTracks and RealDrum lists as well.
as well as the other way around have the "stars" from the instruments pass through to the Styles list.
(all with some indication to see were the stars originate from).

Great idea!
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It would also be useful to create to discuss the new Star wish in comparison to BIAB's existing RT/RD/Style Favorite and Recently used features. BIAB's Favorites and Recently used feature seems more versatile and robust than the Star's proposed features and FAV/REC feature has existed for years so it is readily available for use today in BIAB versions dating back for years. BIAB's FAV/REC/Style feature works the same for all three elements and can be configured as ongoing from project to project or a new Favorite, Recent, or Style search per project. The instruments selected as Favorites are clearly marked and identifiable on the MultiPicker Main screen instrument list.

Also linked to the Favorites/Recent lists are the styles, RT's, RD's, Loops, MidiSuperTracks, Midi Tracks, Midi Soloist, and Midi Melodist

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Hi Charlie,
I haven't used the favorite feature so please bear with me as I ask a couple of questions.
Is there a limit on how many one can add in favorites?
Will the favorite selects stay selected for years?

In all due respect wouldn't it be easier to have a favorite column where one could just click on to add a star? That would work for me.


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Much better than lists (a slow, obsolete and inflexible method to classify items in a database) and still better / more flexible than a simple star column would be implementing a user-defined tag system, which is a modern and ultra flexible system to organize databases and would work, IMO, perfectly for BIAB.

If anyone's is not familiar on how tags work, please, take a look at, for example, how Obsidian (a modern and ultra fast note taking app and knowledge manager system) uses them:



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The only limit I'm aware of any of the favorite menus is with Styles list. It is limited to 150 but it is also the only one with save and load features and is a powerful benefit to narrowing down Style searches. The instrument favorites don't reference a limit in their help file. Recently used instruments are inserted into the list automatically so if there's a limit, it's more than 1110 because what is currently display in my Recently used list. If there's a limit, I assume the oldest in the list is overwritten with the new recently used files once that limit is reached.
I believe the instrument favorites do stay selected for years unless they are intentionally deleted and overwritten. I use the instruments favorites on a per project basis because they link to styles so it's easy to find similar styles that use the same instrument which is a valuable resource for making MultiStyles, which I also use a lot. I usually erase the existing favorites when I start a new project so the list is synced with the current project.

In the MultiPicker, currently clicking a track once selects it and clicking it twice either initiates playing the file demo or playing the instrument using the Chord Sheet. It may be easy to select a favorite by giving up one of the double click options but it seems logical to have play functions rather than mark a favorite. The current Favorites feature marks the track as a favorite and give access to five other functions including displaying a list of similar RealTracks and Styles that use the selected RealTrack. I prefer the more versatile and robust current Favorites over this wishlist request as it's described at the moment.


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Originally Posted by Cerio
Much better than lists (a slow, obsolete and inflexible method to classify items in a database) and still better / more flexible than a simple star column would be implementing a user-defined tag system, which is a modern and ultra flexible system to organize databases and would work, IMO, perfectly for BIAB.

Is this the method Toontrack uses for their EZMixer 2 to categorize the various mixer settings and show them in a "Sky Map"?
I find that type of presentation very good and efficient, at least for EZMix2, and wonder how BIAB Styles categorized into such a "Sky Map" would look like. But that is another subject.


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Thanx for that information Charlie. Much appreciated.


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I put this one here since it has to do with improving the content search.

As a support for the search I find the “graphs”/“music box cylinders” representation for the “rhythm/play pattern” that are used in the various EZ products (EZDrummer3,EZBass,EZKeys2) quite helpful.
The images could be a bit larger but they are very useful as they are.
They give an idea of the structure and complexity of the rhythm pattern, and quite useful when shown together for all items that matches the search criteria. It helps a lot narrowing down the search from a category filtered list

Maybe those ideas could be something for BIAB to add for the rhythm instruments RDs and RT-Bass (and other instruments playing the bass or rhythm).



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Let's get the party started!

For 2027,
1) I would like to see that all tracks as tracks (Both Midi & Audio) and only show the track # by default.
Let the user rename the track if they want.
2) Allow users to rearrange the order of the tracks.
3) Allow users to take for example: Take a MIDI drum track and root its output into another track as audio.
4) Provide a Mackie MCU as a control surface (To start).

Others, Please add to this list!

@ Simon, are you following this!

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Would like to visually differentiate various parts of a song in chord view. For example, I could make the chorus with a green background, bridge would be in brown, etc

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