Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
Page 3 of 5 1 2 3 4 5
Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 4,118
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 4,118
Let's not over emphasize one DAW over another. It is about common UX approaches to make things more user friendly. (like all modern creative tools) Good Context menus is just one example. Remember they want specific examples vs what is already there.
The point made here was lots of smaller specific context menus dealing with each object on the screen.
So, it is the principle of right mouse click to see where you can go from here.

Other points:
1) Don't mix options with next actions. (separate place/button for local options)
2) Don't throw in paths that are not pertinent to next steps.
3) Don't do things in context menu that could be better done with supporting panels


Studio One (latest version), Win 11 23H2 , i9 -10940X 3.3 GHz, 32GB Mem, a 4K 40" monitor, PreSonus Studio Live III Console as interface/controller. secondarily test on Reaper, Cakewalk, and S1 on Surface Pro 3 Win 10 (latest versions).
jpettit #841925 02/05/25 06:51 PM
Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,814
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,814
Originally Posted by jpettit
Let's not over emphasize one DAW over another. It is about common UX approaches to make things more user friendly. (like all modern creative tools) Good Context menus is just one example. Remember they want specific examples vs what is already there.
The point made here was lots of smaller specific context menus dealing with each object on the screen.
So, it is the principle of right mouse click to see where you can go from here.

Other points:
1) Don't mix options with next actions. (separate place/button for local options)
2) Don't throw in paths that are not pertinent to next steps.
3) Don't do things in context menu that could be better done with supporting panels
+1


Jim Fogle - 2025 BiaB (Build 1128) RB (Build 5) - Ultra+ PAK
DAWs: Cakewalk Sonar - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8
Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD
Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD
Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,110
M
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
M
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,110
If one DAW allows you to have whatever you want in whatever menu you want this allows users to decide and create the functions and layout they need then are not stuck with what the company thinks is best for them. As I said the video I posted showed all this but was deleted. I should not have to use AutoHotkey to create up the menus I need.

Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 6,734
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 6,734
To be able to enter N/C (No Chord) in Chord View.

Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,035
Veteran
Online Happy
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,035
Originally Posted by Rustyspoon#
To be able to enter N/C (No Chord) in Chord View.
A very old request. The puzzle is that this has always been among the shortcut chords in pgshortc.txt but it does not work.


BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 7,415
PG Music Staff
OP Offline
PG Music Staff
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 7,415
Thanks for your summary of the main topics Jeff, it's very helpful. And thanks everyone for your great ideas.


Andrew
PG Music Inc.
Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 572
J
Journeyman
Offline
Journeyman
J
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 572
Didn't see anything for a "new" thread, so this. Windows version 2025, here, with the latest build.

1) When setting up a tag ending, what makes the chord sheet temporarily jump back to measure one (as the tag begins), before quickly reverting back to the normal ending? Is there a simple workaround for this?

2) In working with the F5 key in muting tracks and the “back to normal” setting, might it be possible to exit the F5 view by “apply” only and not the “x”, as well? One click would save time, when doing a lot of editing.

3) When a song uses a utility track(s), shown in the mixer, the next song called-up in live play may not have utility tracks. However, the mixer continues to show the gray utility track until clicked away. Shouldn’t it revert back to the default view, if no utility track is present?

Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 6,734
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 6,734
"2) In working with the F5 key in muting tracks and the “back to normal” setting, might it be possible to exit the F5 view by “apply” only and not the “x”, as well? One click would save time, when doing a lot of editing."

I don't follow this one. F5 is now non-modal. You don't need to "apply" anything for mutes/back to normal. It applies changes automatically and you can navigate chord sheet as you wish selecting any other bar and continue further with mutes/unmutes until satisfied... without closing it. I am not even sure what that "apply" button does. You are 1 click (X) away from closing the dialog.

With hope that PGM is serious about UI design for 2026, most agree that modular panels are the way to go. If that is the case, I am sure that F5 will make it there, as it is a popular item.

Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 23,216
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 23,216
Wouldn't it be nice if we could drag and drop an audio track or tracks into the track view? If there are other tracks already we could align the audio with them. BiaB could either determine that audio track's tempo or match said track to BiaB tempo. If BiaB time signature were still only integers the audio track would have to be stretched or shortened accordingly. This could take the place of the ACW and all of its problems. YMMV


Whenever I get something stuck in the back of my throat, I dislodge it by drinking a beer.
It's called the Heineken Maneuver.

64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 4,118
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 4,118
With the advent of many plugins allowing you to drag block chords into the DAW, PGM should seriously be considering block chords as a drag and drop feature.
Dragging chords out of a plugin such as Scaler or Toon Track Keys VST3 onto the chord track should just automatically interpret the block chords as chords recognize the chords and enter the chords names into the chord track.


Studio One (latest version), Win 11 23H2 , i9 -10940X 3.3 GHz, 32GB Mem, a 4K 40" monitor, PreSonus Studio Live III Console as interface/controller. secondarily test on Reaper, Cakewalk, and S1 on Surface Pro 3 Win 10 (latest versions).
Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,035
Veteran
Online Happy
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,035
Originally Posted by MarioD
Wouldn't it be nice if we could drag and drop an audio track or tracks into the track view? If there are other tracks already we could align the audio with them. BiaB could either determine that audio track's tempo or match said track to BiaB tempo. If BiaB time signature were still only integers the audio track would have to be stretched or shortened accordingly. This could take the place of the ACW and all of its problems. YMMV
I am seriously intrigued by this suggestion. I tend to work in the other direction: I make a rhythm backing track then take the WAV file created by BIAB into another program, my notation program. Thus I don't use or need many of the features others use, such as VST3 support or the ACW.

One reason I must go that way is the fact that BIAB is limited to tempos of integers only.

If BIAB supported non-integer tempos, I could match up BIAB files with other software better. Or, as I think Mario is suggesting, if BIAB could IMPORT an audio file and normalize the tempo to two decimal places, I think it could change my workflow to keep me working in BIAB longer.


BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,232
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,232
Originally Posted by Matt Finley
One reason I must go that way is the fact that BIAB is limited to tempos of integers only.

If BIAB supported non-integer tempos, I could match up BIAB files with other software better.

I know we all keep saying this. BUT WHY? BIAB can create a "tempo map" in the ACW which will match not not only fractional tempos, but varying tempos! So if it can do this why does the BIAB app not have the ability to manage this for us with any midi and audio it or we provide? cry


BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,035
Veteran
Online Happy
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,035
Here’s another reason for support of non-integer tempos: it should make it possible to allow tempo changes within the measure. Right now tempo changes occur only at the beginnings of measures. Ritards or accelerandos would be smoother.


BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,035
Veteran
Online Happy
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,035
And another reason, something I encountered once in a recording studio: the integer tempo may not be what it says it is. I took an acoustic guitar track made by BIAB into a recording studio to use as a click track for other instruments to play to. My track was a Bossa Nova recorded at quarter = 140. The studio discovered it wasn’t actually 140, but a tiny fraction under. I don’t remember the exact number but we got it very close at 139.8.


BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 2,673
Product Manager
Offline
Product Manager
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 2,673
I've added non-integer tempo as a feature request, id# 4993


I work here
Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,035
Veteran
Online Happy
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,035
Nice.


BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 23,216
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 23,216
Thanx


Whenever I get something stuck in the back of my throat, I dislodge it by drinking a beer.
It's called the Heineken Maneuver.

64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 4,118
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 4,118
Originally Posted by Simon - PG Music
I've added non-integer tempo as a feature request, id# 4993
Wow, what does it take to get the other dozen Feature Requests in this thread along into the FR database? wink


Studio One (latest version), Win 11 23H2 , i9 -10940X 3.3 GHz, 32GB Mem, a 4K 40" monitor, PreSonus Studio Live III Console as interface/controller. secondarily test on Reaper, Cakewalk, and S1 on Surface Pro 3 Win 10 (latest versions).
Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 2,673
Product Manager
Offline
Product Manager
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 2,673
Originally Posted by jpettit
Originally Posted by Simon - PG Music
I've added non-integer tempo as a feature request, id# 4993
Wow, what does it take to get the other dozen Feature Requests in this thread along into the FR database? wink
The entire thread is being watched, as we are focusing on UI improvements. The non-integer tempo request isn't a chordsheet UI thing (what this thread is specifically for), so I added it as it would likely be missed otherwise.

There's a method to my madness. Sometimes. Very rarely really.


I work here
Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 4,118
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 4,118
Originally Posted by Simon - PG Music
Originally Posted by jpettit
Originally Posted by Simon - PG Music
I've added non-integer tempo as a feature request, id# 4993
Wow, what does it take to get the other dozen Feature Requests in this thread along into the FR database? wink
The entire thread is being watched, as we are focusing on UI improvements. The non-integer tempo request isn't a chordsheet UI thing (what this thread is specifically for), so I added it as it would likely be missed otherwise.

There's a method to my madness. Sometimes. Very rarely really.
If there was a like button on this forum as requested, I would give you a like smile


Studio One (latest version), Win 11 23H2 , i9 -10940X 3.3 GHz, 32GB Mem, a 4K 40" monitor, PreSonus Studio Live III Console as interface/controller. secondarily test on Reaper, Cakewalk, and S1 on Surface Pro 3 Win 10 (latest versions).
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To
Page 3 of 5 1 2 3 4 5

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: VST3 Plugin Support

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® now includes support for VST3 plugins, alongside VST and AU. Use them with MIDI or audio tracks for even more creative possibilities in your music production.

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support

Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: Using VST3 Plugins

Join the conversation on our forum.

Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac Videos

With the release of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac, we’re rolling out a collection of brand-new videos on our YouTube channel. We’ll also keep this forum post updated so you can easily find all the latest videos in one convenient spot.

From overviews of new features and walkthroughs of the 202 new RealTracks, to highlights of XPro Styles PAK 8, Xtra Styles PAKs 18, the 2025 49-PAK, and in-depth tutorials — you’ll find everything you need to explore what’s new in Band-in-a-Box® 2025.

Reference this forum post for One-Stop Shopping of our Band-in-a-Box® 2025 Mac Videos — we’ll be adding more videos as they’re released!

Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac is Here!

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac is here, packed with major new features and an incredible collection of available new content! This includes 202 RealTracks (in Sets 449-467), plus 20 bonus Unreleased RealTracks in the 2025 49-PAK. There are new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 4, two new sets of “RealDrums Stems,” XPro Styles PAK 8, Xtra Styles PAK 19, and more!

Special Offers
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac with savings of up to 50% on most upgrade packages during our special—available until July 31, 2025! Visit our Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.

2025 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK Add-ons
We've packed our Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK with some incredible Add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is automatically included with most Band-in-a-Box® for Mac 2025 packages, but for even more Add-ons (including 20 Unreleased RealTracks!) upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49. You can see the full lists of items in each package, and listen to demos here.

If you have any questions, feel free to connect with us directly—we’re here to help!

Band-in-a-Box 2025 Italian Version is Here!

Cari amici
È stata aggerate la versione in Italiano del programma più amato dagli appassionati di musica, il nostro Band-in-a-Box.
Questo è il link alla nuova versione 2025.

Di seguito i link per scaricare il pacchetti di lingua italiana aggiornati per Band-in-a-Box e RealBand, anche per chi avesse già comprato la nuova versione in inglese.

Band-in-a-Box 2025 - Italiano
RealBand 2025 - Italiano

Band-in-a-Box 2025 French Version is Here!

Bonjour à tous,

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 pour Windows est disponible en Français.
Le téléchargement se fait à partir du site PG Music

Pour ceux qui auraient déjà acheté la version 2025 de Band-in-a-Box (et qui donc ont une version anglaise), il est possible de "franciser" cette version avec les patchs suivants:

BIAB 2025 - francisation
RealBand 2025 - francisation

Voilà, enjoy!

Band-in-a-Box 2025 German Version is Here!

Band-in-a-Box 2025 für Windows Deutsch ist verfügbar!

Die deutsche Version Band-in-a-Box® 2025 für Windows ist ab sofort verfügbar!

Alle die bereits die englische Version von Band-in-a-Box und RealBand 2024 installiert haben, finden hier die Installationsdateien für das Sprachenupdate:

https://nn.pgmusic.com/pgfiles/languagesupport/deutsch2025.exe
https://nn.pgmusic.com/pgfiles/languagesupport/deutsch2025RB.exe

Update Your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 to Build 1128 for Windows Today!

Already using Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Windows®? Download Build 1128 now from our Support Page to enjoy the latest enhancements and improvements from our team.

Stay up to date—get the latest update now!

Forum Statistics
Forums58
Topics84,308
Posts777,558
Members39,615
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
Newest Members
kottke, kaleu, Claudio Paolini, bjornen71, CATBELLOU
39,614 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 141
zedd 119
DC Ron 106
WaoBand 105
rsdean 91
nonchai 87
Today's Birthdays
Manos
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5