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Thank you Simon. The support for non-integer tempos is an old request, but it came up again here in Mario’s post about workflow. Thanks for your action.
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I've added non-integer tempo as a feature request, id# 4993 I'm pretty sure that the boss mentioned that this was going to be delivered and was on the 'todo' list a few years ago. Seems they still haven't got around to it. RealBand can do it. I think just about every DAW imaginable can do it. I think it's been requested since about the inception of the program.
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If there was a like button on this forum as requested, I would give you a like  I don't believe UBB supports Like buttons sadly! Thank you Simon. The support for non-integer tempos is an old request, but it came up again here in Mario’s post about workflow. Thanks for your action. Happy to add it! I know it's a very old request lol. There's a method to my madness. Sometimes. Very rarely really. When the wind is north-north-west ... obviously South-north-west actually I'm pretty sure that the boss mentioned that this was going to be delivered and was on the 'todo' list a few years ago. Seems they still haven't got around to it.
RealBand can do it. I think just about every DAW imaginable can do it. I think it's been requested since about the inception of the program. Yep, but it didn't seem to be in our database so I added it. I'm sure we're all aware that it's a popular request.
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Wouldn't it be nice if we could drag and drop an audio track or tracks into the track view? If there are other tracks already we could align the audio with them. BiaB could either determine that audio track's tempo or match said track to BiaB tempo. If BiaB time signature were still only integers the audio track would have to be stretched or shortened accordingly. This could take the place of the ACW and all of its problems. YMMV I am seriously intrigued by this suggestion. I tend to work in the other direction: I make a rhythm backing track then take the WAV file created by BIAB into another program, my notation program. Thus I don't use or need many of the features others use, such as VST3 support or the ACW. One reason I must go that way is the fact that BIAB is limited to tempos of integers only. If BIAB supported non-integer tempos, I could match up BIAB files with other software better. Or, as I think Mario is suggesting, if BIAB could IMPORT an audio file and normalize the tempo to two decimal places, I think it could change my workflow to keep me working in BIAB longer. One reason I must go that way is the fact that BIAB is limited to tempos of integers only.
If BIAB supported non-integer tempos, I could match up BIAB files with other software better. I know we all keep saying this. BUT WHY? BIAB can create a "tempo map" in the ACW which will match not not only fractional tempos, but varying tempos! So if it can do this why does the BIAB app not have the ability to manage this for us with any midi and audio it or we provide?  Matt, Dan is correct about tempo syncing and the ACW. He's also correct that using the ACW tempo map, BIAB can import an audio file and match fractional tempos as well as varying tempos. Users can also record audio without a click track into BIAB and sync with the ACW. In 2025, using the new Stem Splitter, users can import original audio recorded in 1955, split the recording into five tracks and BIAB using the ACW can tempo map and normalize each of those tracks and sync them with BIAB tracks. The Stem Splitter seems to work with most original or commercial tracks. As a side note. PG Music finalizes all of the Artist Performance Sets - there's currently 18 I believe. All of their demos and tutorials as SGU BIAB songs. Their workflow has always been the reverse of your and others export to DAW workflow. They import DAW material to sync and normalize with BIAB.
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Charlie, thank you for your thoughtful analysis here. As usual, I have homework to do!
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To try to bring this back to the UI/UX topic, as usual Charlie and Dan are technically correct.
I thought MarioD request:
"Wouldn't it be nice if we could drag and drop an audio track or tracks into the track view? This could take the place of the ACW and all of its problems." was really a plea for improved UX.
It has at its core what I have been requesting nonstop for three years. UX user experience and workflow are really the same thing.
Hidden in the request from my perspective was the idea of making the tempo track a global thing that worked equally well in all views.
It was not a matter of can it do it?
It was a matter of improving the user experience to make the main views more of an integrated workflow process rather than a bolt on.
Make the Tempo track global along with ability to do tempo mapping. A global track on top of any view would correspond with that view whether it be audio, MIDI, or Generated players.
Another global request to Make the Arrangement a global track to better keep track of the arrangement globally in all views.
Let's not lose track of the PGM UX request for input.
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Jeff, that makes perfect sense. Great job.
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Yes, that was my thought but I like your idea much better. A universal tempo track is the perfect solution.
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If you would to see an example of a tempo track that works very well, look at the nTempo track in Presonus Notion 6 notation software.
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ive requested for some time to pg the following 'special tracks'....
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1.tempo track
2.chord track
3.markers track
all updateable...
and various other special tracks...eg drum solos track.
but i suspect that given bb is not like a traditional daw due to its special auto accompaniement features it might be difficult for the pg programmers to do this ?.
im sure that pg have thought about these needs over the years given their products often interface to and feed non pg daw apps.
my 'dream' is in the new bb track view have these special tracks at the top of the waveforms under the horizontal ruler.
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In my opinion the whole of gthe interface needs a complete rewrite.
Loose the Win 95 look and employ a consistent modern design across the whole interface.
Make it possible to have a view of the interface where useless buttons can be hidden
Forget silly icons, or relegate them.
Why have two icons for Notation and chord sheet when one button does both?
Don't have invisible buttons (yes it's really true). Imagine a user trying to find the button to change a transposing instrument to Eb. Tip - top quarter of change key button - unindicated.
Loose silly long menus like the the change key button. This can be done clearly in a small space.
Demote hardly buttons like the juke box buttons to menus
Make the preference menu far more useable and visually attractive - it's cluttered and has the user friendliness of a 1960 Welsh telephone book.
Make all menus consistent with eachother, creating a native feel and use more spin buttons.
Looping is a function I use every day. It's notoriosley unstickable. For example, if you touch a space bar (and a lot of other functions, the loop is forgotten even though it appears to be there. This is URGENT as it ruins basic daily experience. I say use two virtual visible pins, green for start, red for end of loop. Make them stay clicked until unclioked!!!!
The Chord Sheet window needs a lot of work. It should be possible to see both the chord name and the Roman Numeral for every chord, by default. Not a hover over, but maybe the Roman numeral in small, botton rhs of bar. This can be tremendously educational - on an habitual basis.
Make it possible to create a note for every bar (hover over).
I would like to see the ability to take any loop and bring it through stand cycles - without having to write everything. A right click "cycles" list - 4ths, wholetones, minor thirds, etc with no trouble of writing it all out. Again, if you store the next generation in the next key (according ot user definitions), this would stop the rebuild lag - IMO.
The whole song also needs to be able to change keys, and no it does not work quickly enough at the moment it splutters. Use a memory dump to store the generated song of the next key (according to cycle settings)
We should be able to make a hover over note for every chord.
We should be able for users to colorise bars in the window according to whim - example intro chords in pink, drum fills in blue, vocal intro by Fred in purple.
Go through all the right click menus trying to minimise clutter, relegate silly functions to the drop downs.
Assuming we get a tempo track (and please make this accesible to pedal input), then make this visible in an improved time line.
Make use of hover over tooltips - for example the eyeball button should have a hover over tooltip "hide or reveal tracks".
The notation window - when revealed, should show a customisable quantized view. Although the current overcluttered view is useful when working out a particular phrase, it's over cluttered and unusable for sight reading.
Don't introduce out of house software and call it a new feature.
Across the whole design, be aware that when using BIAB, the user often has an instrument in their hand occupying their hands. This is why a MIDI pedal(s) - respnding to MIDI control variables, stop and start, increase tempo or ritard, increase volume or decrescendo, tempo etc should be available for live situations. Playing to a click track tempo is too restrictive.
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Basically I disagree with most of your comments
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ZeroZero, while I don't agree to all (likely my use is a bit different) , there are some very solid points you've made. Thank you for contributing.
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Basically I disagree with most of your comments
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Typically when a computer takes over a task from paper base, it can be designed to emulate the task the paper did - centrally. However it soon becomes obvious that a computer can radically enhance the whole role.
In this case the "Chord Sheet", sure it's primary role is to display the chord sheet, and it does a good job of this on the whole, but I have been putting my moind in the position that is playing the song and the come to a bit where they are challenged.
Apart from solid looping of the bar(s), As a musician I would want to ensure that
A] I knew the function of the chord - Roman Numeral style.
B] I could see voicings I could a basic notated form of the chord voicing -, filtering from very basic to advanced
C] Identify any melody notes involved in the bar - perhaps utilising an improved notation window.
D] I could make a free memo, if I desired, for the bar.
I don't want to be hunting all over an interface for this. Ideally, I want to right click on my bar in question.
Generally, many right click menus in BIAB are to long and contain irrelevent items. Try right clicking on a bar, for example, and you will find no less than 27 items! This clearly needs a major redesign. Why have preferences in this menu for example? Why have preferences and display options there at all? Why have Cut and copy list at the top and insert and copy bars at the bottom? Long lists like this ad tedium to the eye. Much of this list can be binned. Toolbar Drop down menus contain such things.
I believe that optionally, in a small smart font, the chord function should be displayed either for user selected bars, or for wthe whole song. Using roman numerals something like " ii V 1 of IV, " . Right clicking this, gives options like voicings and highlights any chord tone that is also part of the melody.
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Typically when a computer takes over a task from paper base, it can be designed to emulate the task the paper did - centrally. However it soon becomes obvious that a computer can radically enhance the whole role. Very well said. The potential of well-written software running on today's personal computer is enormous. Add AI into the mix and it's off the charts.
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I still basically disagree with your statements.
By the way what is PO?
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PO is beyond your Yes and No. It's an advanced creative tool where solutions are reached via controlled absurdity as a stage of transition between problems and solution. Look up Edward De Bono.
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Our new country & Americana RealTracks deliver a rich collection of acoustic, electric, and roots-inspired styles! We have new country pop (9) with legendary guitarist Brent Mason. There is also a potpourri (14) of bouzouki, guitars, banjo, and more, perfect for adding texture and character to contemporary acoustic arrangements. We’ve added funky country guitar (5) with PG favorite Brent Mason, along with classic pedal steel styles (5) featuring steel great Doug Jernigan. There are more country songwriter styles (8) that provide intimate, rootsy foundations for storytelling and modern Americana writing. Finally, we have “background soloing” acoustic guitar (12) with Brent Mason — simpler, but still very tasty acoustic lines designed to sit beautifully behind vocals or act as a subtle standalone solo part.
Check out all the 202 new RealTracks (in sets 468-488)!
And, if you are looking for more, the 2026 49-PAK (for $49) includes an impressive collection of 20 bonus RealTracks, featuring exciting and inspiring additions to add to your RealTracks library. You'll get new country-rhythm guitar styles from PG Music favorites Johnny Hiland and Brent Mason, along with modern-pop grooves that capture today’s radio-ready sound! There are also new indie-folk styles with guitar, bass, 6-string bass used as a high-chording instrument, acoustic guitar, and banjo. Plus, dedicated "cymbal fills" RealDrums provide an added layer that work very well with low-key folky styles with other percussion.
The 2026 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2026 49-PAK!
2026 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!
With your version 2026 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
- MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
- Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
- Playable RealTracks Set 5
- RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
- SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
- iOS Android Band-in-a-Box® App
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
- Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
- RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
- SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)
Learn more about the Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!
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