I changed to the A sub-style and the result was the same.
If you saw my SGU file, then you know how I made the double time feel. I didn't know how and this is the best I could. Is this the correct way or are there other ways?
How so? when I'm using the exact same style but only BB2025 makes the hiss noise.
To make it less noticeable, is there EQ in BB?
I tried other similar styles but so far they all make the hiss noise after the tempo change.
I've done some experiment with BB2025, and found an interesting fact. The odd first count only occurs when the tempo is at or under 67. Also, if I make the tempo change from fast to slow, there's no hiss noise.
Regards, Jazzutako
Perhaps write to the program developers, referencing this thread, and ask them if they can provide an explanation of what you are witnessing between the two product versions, and how you can resolve. They may have made many changes internally since 2008 that might affect what you are witnessing.
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Thanks for keeping us informed, and thanks especially for providing feedback, as this can assist others in the future.
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It may just be the way the drummer dragged the brushes around in that style
Precisely. The drummer is swirling the brushes across the snare drum head. This video shows you what's going on - look at his left hand in the first few seconds.
Here's what I think is going on - the difference between 2018 and 2025 is that 2025 uses a newer version of Elastique, the audio stretching engine. Jazzutako is using the style at a much slower tempo than default, which means that Elastique needs to work harder, and the newer version is more accurate in the upper frequencies while the older version muffles them a bit. There likely would be very little or zero difference in sound when the style is at the default 140bpm.
My suggestion would be to use an EQ plugin on the drums channel to reduce some of the higher frequencies a bit.
... My suggestion would be to use an EQ plugin on the drums channel to reduce some of the higher frequencies a bit.
Agreed. RHarv suggested this also. Not sure if the O/P made any changes since then.
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My suggestion would be to use an EQ plugin on the drums channel to reduce some of the higher frequencies a bit.
I have no idea what to do... I'll start searching in the forum with the keyword "EQ plugin" but if you give me some hints or tell me what to do step by step, that would be greatly appreciated.
I sent a support request form the other day and I'm waiting for the response.
EQ stands for "Equalizer". A plugin is a software application that runs inside of another app (the host, like Band in a Box or a DAW (digital audio workstation)). You use the EQ plugin to accentuate or reduce certain frequencies in the audio signal. In your case, you would add it in the BiaB mixer on the Drums channel. I would start by slightly reducing the frequencies above 5 KHz and check what you're hearing. This is referred to as "low pass" (passing lower frequencies while attenuating or removing higher ones). You can then adjust the roll-off frequency and the amount of attenuation to taste. [There is also "high pass" and "band pass". You can probably guess what those do. ]
I suggest trying the excellent free Tokyo Dawn Labs (TDR) Nova EQ (I use its paid big brother, the Nova GE (Gentleman's Edition)).
After installing Nova (I suggest C:\Program Files\VSTPlugins for the VST version. The default location for the VST3 version is C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3. These are for the 64-bit versions. The 32-bit versions would install in "Program Files (x86)".), make sure that BiaB is looking for plugins in the installation folders you used.
Hello, TheMaartian! OMG thank you so much for explaining in details. OK, I've just installed Nova EQ. So far so good! My BB2025 found the plugin alright.
I will study how to use it now and try as you advised. I will let you know how I go.
I'll start searching in the forum with the keyword "EQ plugin" but if you give me some hints or tell me what to do step by step, that would be greatly appreciated.
TheMaartian's answer is fantastic, however it's not necessary to install third party plugins to use an EQ in Band-in-a-Box.
One way to do what you want is to use the Tone control in the mixer - turning this down will reduce treble and increase bass. Please see my screenshot below - the rightmost column is the tone control (and keep in mind that the Tone label may disappear if the mixer is too small).
Another way to do this is using the included plugins - this video tutorial will show you what to do (it's a long tutorial at over 52 minutes, but the first 6-7 minutes will show you what you need)
Originally Posted by jazzutako
I sent a support request form the other day and I'm waiting for the response.
I've replied, however you seem to have got your answer here.
... however it's not necessary to install third party plugins to use an EQ in Band-in-a-Box.
...
Another way to do this is using the included plugins - this video tutorial will show you what to do (it's a long tutorial at over 52 minutes, but the first 6-7 minutes will show you what you need)
That's a really useful video, Simon. I wondered why it had 0 Likes and 0 Comments...and then I noticed it is Unlisted. That explains why I missed it when it was released. Can you provide the link to the Instrument Plugins video you mentioned? Thanks in advance.
I knew that BiaB included a 5-band EQ plugin, but I have found that it's really useful to have a visual UI when EQ'ing. You can be much more surgical in what you boost or attenuate. Being able to grab the band node marker and drag it up and down, and left and right while the audio it playing really helps target the problem and the solution in real time. If you're not familiar with EQ'ing, the visual feedback is also a good learning opportunity.
I recommended a free EQ, so as not to add any cost if it didn't work for her. Along with MeldaProduction, TDR makes some of the best free audio plugins around. The Nova EQ is excellent, IMO.
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Can you provide the link to the Instrument Plugins video you mentioned? Thanks in advance.
Certainly - here you go:
Originally Posted by TheMaartian
I knew that BiaB included a 5-band EQ plugin, but I have found that it's really useful to have a visual UI when EQ'ing. You can be much more surgical in what you boost or attenuate. Being able to grab the band node marker and drag it up and down, and left and right while the audio it playing really helps target the problem and the solution in real time. If you're not familiar with EQ'ing, the visual feedback is also a good learning opportunity.
I recommended a free EQ, so as not to add any cost if it didn't work for her. Along with MeldaProduction, TDR makes some of the best free audio plugins around. The Nova EQ is excellent, IMO.
BIAB also includes a 10-band EQ, just so you're aware. I also prefer parametric EQ's over graphic EQ's (and Nova is a fantastic one that I use all the time), but in this case I wanted to recommend things that are built into or included with BIAB.
Hello Simon, the two video tutorials you linked to above are "unlisted" on YouTube and are not available to the general public. Is this an oversight? Will the videos be available to for public viewing in the future?
The YouTube links are working here for me Jim. Perhaps it is due to a temporary outage or similar?
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I think he is talking 'public' as in they will turn up in search results for Google/YouTube The links work, but because they are unlisted, you can't really find them without a link
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I think he is talking 'public' as in they will turn up in search results for Google/YouTube The links work, but because they are unlisted, you can't really find them without a link
Thanks rharv. Yes that could be correct. I clicked on this link to then show them separately on YT:
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Hi AudioTrack, as rharv said, the two YouTube videos are "unlisted". The videos are not available for public viewing without a link.
Thanks Jim for clarifying, yes, we're now working from the same page
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Hello Simon, the two video tutorials you linked to above are "unlisted" on YouTube and are not available to the general public. Is this an oversight? Will the videos be available to for public viewing in the future?
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