Hi outsider,
Thanks for the input and thanks to MAC the Omnipresent god of BIAB

too. Yes I think the software is the same: Saffire Control. Yes the Saffire is mighty it is also mighty complex. Although I have ben around DAWS 15/20 years I found it real difficult. I am not techy by nature but learn if I must (much rather play music).
My set up is that the audio from the Nord comes in through 5 and 6 channels. No audio is showing up on the levels in BIAB (presently).
The routing in Saffire is very complex and their terminology is obtuse. Although I have read all the tutorials and manuals (several times) its still not clear.
I have a surround studio, and I have a Ivory 5051 amp routed in. I use the other outputs for the usuals guitar bass, vox etc.
Incidently I use WIn7 64 and a number of standalones TruePianos, B4, Pianoteq outside BAIB when I use BAIB as an accopaniment player - this works, but their are a number of issues:
I use MME for BIAB and Saffire for Audio out for the standalones. This means that I have to control the BIAB Audio out from Win 7 volume mixer but the standlones dont show up here and must be levelled from within their own apps. Oh for proper mixer and support for a VST instrument panel (a proper one).
I have absolutely no idea how to route the Audio appropriately fro the NOrd output (although its hard wired corectly, through this maze.
I don't want to upset my set up too much as it also does a lot of toher things. I know I must change something but what?
My music teach wants me to record some stuff, but at present I cant even record my standalones into BIAB, or the audio out for the NOrd - so I am snookered.
Its so wierd that such an otherwise extremely capable and sophisticated application can make like so difficult in this way. Perhaps PG might wish to comment.
Any help apprieciated
Z