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So, its high time that BAIB had a mixer, proper, inside application, routings and the ability to host VSTs properly - i say this in the hope PG is listening. Its stll a great program but it is crippled in substantial was.

Wil I use real band? Well I guess I will have no choice. Another layer of complexity - what wil BIAB do and what will RB do and what will they not do, I guess I am compelled to spendhours doing this I think its like avig a word processer that does not do paragraph formatting, or font changing, and simply supplies another application to do this instead at a stroke making everything more tedious and complex even though the 'roblem' issue is 'solved'
Much better tat the original application contains all functionality.

BIAB without mijxer and VST hoting, without ability to input Audio correctly is a cripled application. Sorry to say this as in other ways its tremendous and vey well thought out, howeever it doesnt provide essential functionality.



While I basically agree with you because the issue of Biab only having one midi output port has been talked about for years and it has been on the whishlist also for years, this is one of the main reasons Real Band was created in the first place. A lot of us think RB is PG's answer to that single output port problem but they don't publish their reasoning for what they do. With only one midi output port, there's no need for Biab to have a full mixer because you're only dealing with one synth and the on screen individual instrument buttons perform the function of a mixer. Remember, Biab is designed to create backing tracks, not to be a full fledged production app. Create your tracks and then move them to another app for all that. In this case Real Band does what you want. If you think learning Real Band creates another layer of complexity, consider what putting 48 tracks, multiple synth capability, multitrack audio/midi recording, full mastering capability, full midi and audio editing would do if all that were to be integrated into Biab.
Now, that would be one monsterous and complex program.
There's no one perfect answer here Zero. PG as a company has to make difficult choices as how they're going to market their products. Just accept it and learn whatever you have to in order to get your job done.

Bob

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