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Re: Check Out Edit > Song Form Jim Fogle #841210 01/31/25 01:39 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,819 Winston Salem, NC USA Jim Fogle OP Veteran
OP Jim Fogle Veteran Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,819 Winston Salem, NC USA	"Sorry Jim, I don't have time making, or even listening to such songs." I know. You've made some outstanding sounding song projects. But I thought "if you have a 100 bar song and repeat ten of the bars 100 times" provided an extreme example of what a user might try to do. I can see someone attempting to create such a song project to use during instrument practice. "Well, what is happening in T.View when you use Song Form? Why would it not align? It's likely just reuses parts like loops? Something must be happening there" Agree but I just don't know. I haven't used Track View much so I've not checked out all its capabilities. That's one reason I hope that users that do use Track View on a regular basis are contributing to this conversation. "Get rid of restriction - problem solved.". I'm all for that idea. But the focus in this thread is on the BiaB graphic interface and if, how, or should the interface resemble a typical DAW interface. Jim Fogle - 2025 BiaB (Build 1128) RB (Build 5) - Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk Sonar - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

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DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Jim Fogle	01/31/25 02:00 AM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	justanoldmuso	01/31/25 01:40 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not (Discussion)	Jim Fogle	01/31/25 06:11 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Matt Finley	01/31/25 06:29 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not (Discussion)	Rustyspoon#	01/31/25 06:31 PM
Check Out Edit > Song Form	Jim Fogle	01/31/25 07:35 PM
Re: Check Out Edit > Song Form	Gordon Scott	01/31/25 10:01 PM
Re: Check Out Edit > Song Form	Rustyspoon#	01/31/25 07:56 PM
Re: Check Out Edit > Song Form	Jim Fogle	01/31/25 08:39 PM
Re: Check Out Edit > Song Form	Matt Finley	01/31/25 11:18 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	musocity	01/31/25 11:46 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Jim Fogle	02/01/25 02:50 AM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Rob Helms	02/01/25 02:17 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	AudioTrack	02/01/25 02:56 AM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	jpettit	02/01/25 05:19 AM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Rustyspoon#	02/01/25 01:18 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	MarioD	02/01/25 01:32 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	justanoldmuso	02/01/25 02:08 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	MarioD	02/01/25 09:57 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	justanoldmuso	02/01/25 10:21 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	MarioD	02/02/25 01:16 AM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Jim Fogle	02/01/25 03:27 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Gordon Scott	02/01/25 06:30 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Rustyspoon#	02/01/25 03:35 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	MarioD	02/01/25 09:53 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	musocity	02/02/25 12:44 AM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Rustyspoon#	02/01/25 03:51 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Jim Fogle	02/01/25 04:07 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Rustyspoon#	02/01/25 04:43 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Rustyspoon#	02/01/25 11:22 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	MarioD	02/02/25 01:14 AM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Rustyspoon#	02/02/25 03:48 AM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	MarioD	02/03/25 12:57 AM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	jpettit	02/03/25 01:52 AM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Jim Fogle	02/03/25 02:45 AM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	jpettit	02/03/25 04:18 AM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Gordon Scott	02/03/25 09:58 AM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Rustyspoon#	02/03/25 03:02 AM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	jpettit	02/03/25 04:38 AM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Rob Helms	02/03/25 12:55 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Rustyspoon#	02/03/25 01:43 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Charlie Fogle	02/03/25 02:35 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Rustyspoon#	02/03/25 04:01 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Charlie Fogle	02/03/25 04:45 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Rustyspoon#	02/03/25 05:33 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Rob Helms	02/03/25 10:55 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Rustyspoon#	02/03/25 11:36 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	justanoldmuso	02/04/25 01:41 AM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Rob Helms	02/04/25 04:41 AM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Jim Fogle	02/04/25 02:48 AM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	musocity	02/04/25 03:18 AM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Jim Fogle	02/04/25 07:29 AM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	MarioD	02/04/25 02:32 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	musocity	02/04/25 05:56 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Rustyspoon#	02/04/25 04:11 AM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Jim Fogle	02/04/25 07:48 AM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Rustyspoon#	02/04/25 05:27 AM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Rob Helms	02/04/25 03:14 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	musocity	02/04/25 06:39 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Rustyspoon#	02/04/25 07:46 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Cerio	02/04/25 06:51 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Gordon Scott	02/04/25 07:16 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Jim Fogle	02/04/25 07:17 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	musocity	02/04/25 07:29 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Rob Helms	02/04/25 08:00 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Rustyspoon#	02/04/25 08:09 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	musocity	02/04/25 10:33 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Charlie Fogle	02/04/25 09:05 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Rustyspoon#	02/04/25 10:38 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Rob Helms	02/04/25 10:50 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	shlind	02/04/25 11:00 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	MarioD	02/04/25 11:07 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	justanoldmuso	02/05/25 12:30 AM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	musocity	02/05/25 01:34 AM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Rob Helms	02/05/25 12:36 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Rustyspoon#	02/05/25 01:00 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	justanoldmuso	02/05/25 01:27 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Rustyspoon#	02/05/25 01:48 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	musocity	02/05/25 02:35 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Charlie Fogle	02/05/25 02:15 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Rustyspoon#	02/05/25 02:43 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Charlie Fogle	02/07/25 02:29 AM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Rustyspoon#	02/07/25 02:48 AM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Charlie Fogle	02/07/25 11:45 AM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	justanoldmuso	02/07/25 01:29 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	shlind	02/07/25 02:22 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Rustyspoon#	02/07/25 03:10 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Charlie Fogle	02/07/25 06:12 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Rustyspoon#	02/07/25 07:24 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	MarioD	02/07/25 08:01 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Charlie Fogle	02/07/25 08:13 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Charlie Fogle	02/07/25 08:04 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Rustyspoon#	02/07/25 08:40 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	MarioD	02/07/25 09:57 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Charlie Fogle	02/08/25 11:37 AM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Matt Finley	02/08/25 03:34 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	justanoldmuso	02/08/25 08:00 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Jim Fogle	02/09/25 01:22 AM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	shlind	02/08/25 08:12 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Rustyspoon#	02/08/25 08:31 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Charlie Fogle	02/09/25 06:50 PM
Re: DAW Features In BiaB - Yes/No Why/Why Not	Jim Fogle	02/09/25 07:43 PM

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