Great discussion! I'm glad to see Gordon Scott, musocity, AudioTrack, jpettit, MarioD and Rob Helms have joined the discussion.

RustySpoon#, jpettit and MarioD have presented differing views about how deep an upgrade we are discussing. Summarizing the thoughts as I understand them, jpettit and Rob Helms are concentrating only on changes to the graphic interface, RustySpoon# believes underlying issues can/should be fixed while changing the graphic interface while MarioD and JustAnOldMuso supports ditching Band-in-a-Box all together while splitting the features between the Plug-In and RealBand. Wow! Can't get much more divergent than that. These divergent thoughts demonstrate why I thought it was a good idea to start a discussion thread. We won't know which thought is nearest to being correct until PG Music drops an update or in the next annual release. Perhaps the summertime Mac release will give us a hint.

Looking back at Andrew's directive in the +++ original thread +++ he was pretty specific about what he wanted, "This thread is for suggestions regarding the Toolbars, layout, menus, preferences and other. This is for specific suggestions only, not general comments."

Until we agree on what feedback Andrew is requesting the conversation will continue to diverge in different directions. To me Andrew's request is for graphic interface changes with minimal to no changes in operation. Also past changes indicate changes will be gradual (think non-modal to modal windows) and tempered (think Control+T to switch between the Minimal Screen Mode and Normal Screen Mode). What do you guys think?

Again I hope additional users will contribute to the conversation and that those that have contributed so far will continue to do so.

Jim Fogle - 2025 BiaB (Build 1128) RB (Build 5) - Ultra+ PAK
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