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Originally Posted by rayc
I agree with B.D. about easier & more effective ways to get HUGE guitar tone.
I a studio it would, normally, be the case of the same player doing a second take with the slight timing differences and any deliberate changes in tonality adding up to a BIG sound.
With BIAB you can duplicate a track, at a minuscule amount of 100% wet delay, use a different amp setting hard pan L&R and boost the level of the delayed duplicate, (the brain fixes on the 1st heard so one needs to boost the later sound to claim equal status.), and you should be good.
Then again the multiple instruments playing variations can work, as you've demonstrated, though the differences are great and can cause some muddying.

Thanks for listening and responding, Ray. As I replied to B.D., I wasn't after the Spectre 'wall of sound'. Having used 6 differently playing rhythm guitars in "Zuzu" I just wanted to see if I could use my 8 BiaB favourites.


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Originally Posted by rayc
I agree with B.D. about easier & more effective ways to get HUGE guitar tone.
I a studio it would, normally, be the case of the same player doing a second take with the slight timing differences and any deliberate changes in tonality adding up to a BIG sound.
With BIAB you can duplicate a track, at a minuscule amount of 100% wet delay, use a different amp setting hard pan L&R and boost the level of the delayed duplicate, (the brain fixes on the 1st heard so one needs to boost the later sound to claim equal status.), and you should be good.
Then again the multiple instruments playing variations can work, as you've demonstrated, though the differences are great and can cause some muddying.

I just posted my reply, Ray, which was quite long, but then forgot to send it ad I've lost it now! Though it basically reiterated most of my reply to B.D.


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Originally Posted by BlueAttitude
Good sounding track, fun hearing all those guitars get added to the mix. Perhaps not the traditional way of achieving the "wall of sound" , but certainly works well in this song.
Nice job!

Thanks for the response, Dave. As mentioned in previous replies, I just wanted to see if I could use my 8 BiaB favourite BiaB rhythm guitars in one instrumental, though the final 2 coming in close to the end were really unnecessary as the effect was already achieved. Though that said, I would take them out!


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Originally Posted by BabuMusic
Sheesh. I know I commented on this version before. It wouldn't be the first time I forgot to push Post. I just came back to see if you thought my last coment was humorous. smile Well, now i'll get more serious. LOVE it! Standard high-level composition and a masterful mix complemented by the perfect video, Chay. Pretty funny, huh?

Hey, Marty. I'm not sure you mean about if I thought your last comment was humorous as I'm not sure which post you're referring to, but I'm sure I would have! Thanks for listening to and positively responding to this one!


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I a bit congested, so I can't hear the nuances of your mix, but what I can discern sounds good. Excellent seamless splices of the guitar bits.

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Clearly a big effort goes into your video productions. This song has some really good sounds.


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Originally Posted by Ezekiel's Storm
I a bit congested, so I can't hear the nuances of your mix, but what I can discern sounds good. Excellent seamless splices of the guitar bits.

Thanks for listening and responding, EZ Storm.


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Originally Posted by AudioTrack
Clearly a big effort goes into your video productions. This song has some really good sounds.

Glad you liked the music and video, Audio Track. Thanks for the response.


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Excellent instrumental. Cool guitar work


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Originally Posted by Scott C
Excellent instrumental. Cool guitar work

Thanks, Scott. I was surprised to get a new response to this as I've posted 2 tracks since and I'm about to post another!


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#63: On the road to effortlessness, effort must be made.
#92: Be Love Now, the rest will come on its own.
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