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Hi
About 20 years ago I used Trax software created by Passport Deisgns to make music. Trax made files with MTS extension. They could also be saved as standard midi files. MTS extension is nowadays used for video files but that is another thing.
Now I try to go through my old files and play them but I don't have Trax anymore. MTS files is not recognized by any software that I have. I have lost the original disk of the Trax software. It is also possible that it would not work anymore on current Windows.
Any ideas how I could make the conversion from MTS files to MIDI files?
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I searched for several solutions, but did not find a suitable result. Could you upload one of your Trax (.MTS) files and someone might be able to investigate if it is possible to extract the MIDI content?
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I tried to upload one file but PG allows only certain type of files to be attached.
My understanding is that if I could get Master Track Pro software from somewhere it can handle MTS files.
Today I found the Trax setup.exe file but it refuses to run the setup as it can be run only on old Windows versions.
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You wouldn't be able to upload it directly to this PG Music site, but you could upload it to Drop Box or a similar file sharing site, and then share the link here.
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Just off the top of my head, have you tried renaming one to .mid file extension?
I know it sounds crazy, but may be worth a shot.
If you did upload one somewhere that would have been the first thing I tried.
Might just be a MIDI file with extra junk in it.
20 years ago and all ..
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Thank you for your comments. I could not get Timidity software up and running. It is mentioned on the Reddit page.
Renaming does not help. I tried with BIAB and Audacity but the software does not understand the data on the file.
The original creator of Master Track Pro and Trax midi software has a new company Passport Music Software. There is a forum on the site and I update a question there. The "Contact us" page is not activated.
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The “new” Passport website is pretty new but has a long history. The original author of Encore notation software bought it back.
I remember Master Tracks Pro. I seriously doubt the software would install decades later.
There are others of the new forum waiting for Encore 6 which may read your MTS file. In the meantime, upload your file to somewhere like Dropbox. Let me try.
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I downloaded Trax software from here: https://vetusware.com/manufacturer/Passport%20Designs/?author=1533The files contain Bach.mts which is technically a similar file that was created by Trax. Master Tracks Pro dowload includes the same Bach.mts.
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I’m betting that you are the anonymous poster here: Passport Music Trax and AudioTrax were budget versions of MasterTracks Pro. I have no idea if MTP can open those files or convert them. I have a feeling that most MTP users don’t even know about those old versions, probably why no one responded to your question. Unfortunately, Don Williams didn’t answer either which would have been ideal seeing how he wrote the original versions. There’s an article on the old hardware requirements here: Article from Sound On Sound, March 1992 I suggest going back and asking if anyone with a working version of MTP can try and convert a file for you. I’ve done this for Encore and MusicTime users. If someone can do the conversion, then you can work out a deal to convert all.
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This issue is solved. I found a guy that has Encore system up and running. I sent all my MTS files to him and he saved them as MIDI files.
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I'm glad you solved it. I've followed what I assume are your posts on the Encore forum as well as here.
I did not know Encore could open these files. I have the over ten year-old Windows version (I was a beta tester for many years). It works on my Windows 11 system, although it's no less buggy now than it was then. Did you convert them on Encore for Mac, or Encore for Windows? Just curious for future reference.
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I'm glad you solved it. I've followed what I assume are your posts on the Encore forum as well as here.
I did not know Encore could open these files. I have the over ten year-old Windows version (I was a beta tester for many years). It works on my Windows 11 system, although it's no less buggy now than it was then. Did you convert them on Encore for Mac, or Encore for Windows? Just curious for future reference. My question, too. I suppose I could read the Encore 5 manual again but so much of it is wrong, never occurred me to try that. When I’m back in my office later today, perhaps… I do talk to Don now and then but feel it’s not my job to bother him about progress on Encore 6 or the lack of it. Last we spoke, he’s still working on Encore 6. Next up is Overture 6 which will be able to open Encore and MasterTracks files, then comes the update to MTP.
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Yes, if the new Overture that is developed first can read the older Encore files and export complete Music XML, I will be all set.
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Yes, if the new Overture that is developed first can read the older Encore files and export complete Music XML, I will be all set. Don’s plan is MusicXML 3.0 which is still a standard. Many apps never updated to 3.1 or 4.0. In the meantime, I’m using PDFtoMusic Pro to convert my Encore files as needed—appears to be xml 3.0. Is it great? Not at all but it’s a lot more accurate than SmartScorePro for Encore files. I lost one of my 2012 MacBook Pros last week when I stumbled in my office and dumped some coffee into it. Turns out that an inexpensive insurance policy I bought from AT&T covers this with a $99 deductible. If they can’t repair it, I’ll be offered a later refurb. I’m hoping it can be repaired, however. Fortunately, I have another juuuuust in case.
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I remember you mentioning PDFtoMusic Pro. I have it. It often doesn't want to proceed but when it does, it works well. Are you saying it reads an Encore native file? Or that it's pretty good reading PDFs created by Encore?
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I remember you mentioning PDFtoMusic Pro. I have it. It often doesn't want to proceed but when it does, it works well. Are you saying it reads an Encore native file? Or that it's pretty good reading PDFs created by Encore? PDF files only. It gets confused if expressions are too close to lyrics, text or other symbols but it can save time. A number of people recommend Myriad's Harmony Assistant. Although it claims the ability to import Encore files, I find it does a terrible job especially with regards to lyrics, most of my work in Encore. I download the demo now and then just to see if any progress has made. In addition, I find the workflow cumbersome.
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I used PDFtoMusic Pro last week on a score where the guy who laid out the original couldn’t keep away from dotted slurs—and that was just the beginning of his many mistakes. I was in time wasting hell when it scanned them all in as slurs—but not slurs that Finale could just delete. I had to delete the notes they were attached to first then re-enter. Fermatas over double-bars instead of caesurra and other crap…
I would have been better off entering everything by hand. Next time…
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