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OK so I have a keyboard (Nord) that is capable of outputting very nice sounds, but I can use them with BIAB. I went through all the set up options with support and they tell me this is impossible. So no Sound output from the Nord can be recorded - at all.
I also can't use my VSTs within BIAB.
I have to run my piano as a seperate standalone beside BAIB and control BIAB's level from within Win 7 (!) and the Piano within the standalone.
BIAB is fantastic in some ways, but I thought I bought an ACCOMPANIMENT program, it appears it cannot accompany (and record) my VSTs and/or the Audio inputs.
I would have thought that one could assume that an ACCOMPANIMENT program would perform these duties.
My view is that it simply isn't feasible to expect users to confine themselves to the GM synths in a world where so many finer quality instruments are ubiquitous.
Surely this needs urgent attention?
Zero
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Thats why the,y brought out Realband so you can do all these audio things,a lot of people wanted to be able to record audio in BIAB but it would have been a complete rewrite to do it and it would have turned into another ten a penny sequencer
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If you are wanting to play the tracks into BB then yes it is not designed for that. you can record a track in RB or PT and then import that audio track into BB. RB is a true DAW and can either record audio in or send midi to the Krog to play the tracks.
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thanks for all your support. I have rang tecdh and tghey have found two corrupt files - a .ini and a config. Now Real Band is working for me. I still dont agree though that one should need another application just to use a VST or see a mixer. Like many users I already have a seuqncer, I use Cubase 5 so I dont need a low end sequencer like Real Band for any purpose really apart from playalong - BIAB should, but does not, meet all my accompaniment needs. Anyways I guess I will have to learn two applications instead of one. I guess I must juggle all three applications.
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Hi Zero,
If you're using Cubase, then you probably won't really need to use RealBand if you don't want to. You can use the Drag and Drop feature to move all the RealTracks from Band-in-a-Box into Cubase as audio, and move any MIDI tracks into Cubase as MIDI, and use your VSTs, etc there. If you know what you're doing in Cubase, then it won't be too difficult, and you'll probably get great results. :-)
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Yes I realise this Kent, but I seem to br straddled between oall three programs. I cant get VSTs into BIAB, notr Audio, I can only do this in Realtyracks. I cantr do any serious mixing in BIAB either. Please think about this, BIAB needs proper VST support and it needs a mixer - then you dont have to straddle two programs. Many of us have other sequencers which we are sungi and its not realistic to imagine we will jump ship to Real Band, nor settle for gm synth sounds. I jost dont get the need fro the application myself its just an unecessary level of complexity for me.
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Zero, why do you keep harping on this. If you do not want to use RB don't, use cubase! Pg is not going to scrap the RB project just for you, or a handfull of others that do not want to use it. BiaB is what they intended it to be, auto accompaniment. RB is a sequencer, just like Cubase, or Sonar with a slightly different leaning. PG went to a lot of hard work to bridge the gap between Powertracks and BiaB, with RB. The HAVE a stinking Sequencer in Powertracks!! Others wanted to be able to generate RTs and RDs in the sequencer, Add VSTi power to the mix and use other tools, so they built RB.
If you want to use other programs other than PG products, good use them, but do not blame PG for the fact it does not do what you want. Kent gave a solution, if you do not want to learn RB drag to cubase, and all you did was restate the gripe.
a select few people keep complaining that they want BiaB to act like a combination or BiaB and a full sequencer. HELLLOOOOO that is exactly what RB is, a marriage of Powertracks and BiaB. If you are not willing to learn RB then you have no place to complain. 99% of it is not different from Cubase. Just get familiar with it, all the time wasted complaining you could have learned it by now. You say you don't get the need for RB, what? The need was as the users requested, a crossover as mentioned above.
PG is not here to make products that lead to sales for other DAW makers. they are in business to sell PG products. As far as jumping ship from Cubase to RB, well that is exactly what they want you to do, don't kid yourself this is BUSINESS plain and simple. They are here to promote their marketing plan, and their products, not make it easy for you to use other products. The fact that they added drop and drag says volumes about how much they care about their customers. They could have made it work only with their products, but they were fair about it, knowing some haved other products for years and RB is a new product, still young in development. But let's be real, selling BiaB, PTPA, and RB is formost on their minds. Heck the best part of it all is that RB comes free bundled with BiaB!!!!!!!
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The fact that Realband will indeed replace Cubase (for pretty much all intents and purposes) and is included free, makes me tend to agree; if you learn RB you'll probably drop both the other programs. Try it, you just might learn to like it.
It generates backing (much like BiaB) and allows multiple audio ports, mulitple VSTi synths, etc ... and you already have it! The graphics may not be as purty as Cubase, but I have yet to ever be able to see those graphics while listening to a finished CD project.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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I don't mean to harp, or be a pain, but folks keep asking for PG to develop BiaB into what they have already develop RB as. A mixer and VSTi support. So what are they supposed to do have two identical programs and call one BiaB and the other RB? Scrap Rb altogether? throw out 4 or 5 years of development? Just so a few of us do not have to learn anything new?
Then you hear folks say "what do they expect me to do change over to their products" "i like "xxxxxxx" Well go to their forum and ask them to develop their product to incorporate BiaB into it and see what they say.
Why not ask for reasonable things like continued progress in the RB project with better VST implimentation
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You talk as if you are a self appointed spokesman for ALL users except what YOU call 'a select few' . This is a wish forum I will say what I want without your self appointed censure. I still think BIAB needs a MIxer and proper VST support. BIAB is an accompaniment player that cant really support a decent Piano without running it outside the app and using WIndows mixer. This is basic.
Rharv: Yes for many people RB will be enough, but RB is no Cubase, it can't become my sequencer here. RB may be useful but its a minnow.
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PG is not here to make products that lead to sales for other DAW makers. they are in business to sell PG products. As far as jumping ship from Cubase to RB, well that is exactly what they want you to do, don't kid yourself this is BUSINESS plain and simple. They are here to promote their marketing plan, and their products, not make it easy for you to use other products.
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