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RB doesn't support multistyles. It just generates the first style but doesn't know how to apply style changes. Just try it.
I'm still not understanding. Is it being suggested that a user writes a song in BIAB with 1000+ style changes, which therefore doesn't work in RealBand?
If so, some sort of songwriting award is in order.

I believe he means you can only use the first BiaB style only, thereby losing the ability to add other styles. So if you have 7 thousand styles and you can only use one you have lost the ability to add any of the 6999 styles left.

I don't know that for sure as I have little experience with RB.


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I think I'm following, but there seems to have been a significant digression from the topic. The O/P asked:
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Can't figure out how to Import/open a MIDI song and keep all the included tracks separate.
The question was never about how to use styles or multi-styles or how many styles could be used or what any limitations might be. The question was only ever about opening / importing MIDI onto separate tracks.


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surely you agree that both rb and bb need some rationilasition..to save confusion." >


Doesn't matter. It's irrelevant to importing midi channels to separate tracks in BIAB.

< imho your a bb guru but i would suggest some or even many users are going to find certain things in bb very complex that you take for granted.
and the same applies to rb. >


Doesn't matter. It's irrelevant to importing midi channels to separate tracks in BIAB.

< back on topic therefore heres a what if. re importing a midi file..lol >

Doesn't matter. 'What if's' are irrelevant to importing midi channels to separate tracks in BIAB. All of your examples are hypotheticals relevant for discussion but in this thread, the query is specific. The poster had a specific issue with Jim's instructions that had a inadvertent error. A straight forward answer was given that should take care of the issue.

The point was made that RB is there for tasks it's better suited for than BIAB. We have both BIAB and RB - we have a solution to both issues related to this thread.

< honestly im not trying to veer off topic...im just aware there might be lurkers reading these posts haveing difficulty doing something in bb that rb can do.
honestly its NOT bb versus rb...its useing the strengths of each. >


You are absolutely correct. I agree. Any lurker with an issue has the opportunity to ask for help the same as the poster here when he was having trouble importing midi to individual tracks in BIAB. The strengths of BIAB win out over RB when simply opening a midi file with the channels on separate tracks


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Regarding Multistyles
If I understand them correctly.

Any track(s) in RB, or portion thereof, can be generated using any available styles.
You don't 'lose' styles, but the workflow may be different.
Different strokes for different folks.


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Thank you all for the insightful comments. I will eventually get into the multi-styles realm, but I am not there yet. Meanwhile I looked around and around and found an easy process that seems to accomplish what i was originally looking for. Bonus, it is easy to follow at any level of expertise.
No need to have an understanding of channels, tracks, chords only, melodists, soloists, all, some custom, etc etc... Check it out yourselves, it worked like a charm form me:

https://www.theguitarband.com/how-to-import-and-play-a-midi-file-on-band-in-a-box/

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If you have the 2025 Ultra PAK or the 2025 Audiophile you have 1,015 PG Music created MultiStyles. See the screen shot below. PG Music identifies MultiStyles by adding a + symbol at the end of the style name.

Here is what the Help file says about MultiStyles:
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Band-in-a-Box MultiStyles are styles that can have up to 24 Substyles; original Band-in-a-Box styles had two Substyles, "a" and "b." Band-in-a-Box MultiStyles typically have four Substyles, but may have up to twenty-four, selected by using part markers "a" through "x."

You can easily make your own MultiStyles, either from scratch, or combining parts from existing styles to make a MultiStyle. For example, if you have 10 favorite Country styles, you can quickly make a single MultiStyle that has 20 Substyles available within the same song.

There are 2 types of MultiStyles

1. MultiStyles in styles, working for every song (e.g. NR_CURR+.STY Nashville Rock Current MultiStyle).

2. MultiStyles for a specific song only.

MultiStyles in Styles ("+" Styles)

Styles can be made that have multiple Substyles, and you can choose the various Substyles using the letters a, b, c, d, etc. up to "x" for 24 Substyles.

Our naming convention for MultiStyles is to use a + sign at the end of the style name. For example, MyStyle+.STY would be a MultiStyle.

You can use these substyles easily. Just open the StylePicker and filter the styles list by "+.sty."

The point Charlie was making is Realband is limited to using just the first style of a MultiStyle. Not mentioned above is the DAW plugin is also limited to using the first style of a MultiStyle.

A good example of how a MultiStyle can complement a song is given in the Memo textbox of the highlighted style in the screen shot.

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Love theguitarband.com website! The website has great backing tracks, but much more important in most cases, a wealth of shared knowledge about how to use Band-in-a-Box to create great backing tracks. Thanks for bring up the website in this conversation jcgato98.


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< Regarding Multistyles
If I understand them correctly.

Any track(s) in RB, or portion thereof, can be generated using any available styles.
You don't 'lose' styles, but the workflow may be different.
Different strokes for different folks. >


You are mostly correct. You do lose the Multi of a MultiStyle in RB. The way RB constructs songs differently than BIAB makes it possible RB can easily duplicate the same result of any MultiStyle, Just in RB, the result in done manually like you say, where as in BIAB, the MultiStyle retains the Multi description and function and generates the song automatically as programed by the MultiStyle loaded using part markers.

A MultiStyle with a + in the name will have Styles associated with it with the same name but a number also included. RB can use all of the associated styles to recreate the same arrangement as the BIAB SGU.

In the example screenshot, there are four styles associated creating possible 8 substyles for the song. In BIAB, Right click the Part Marker to access these substyles and change styles. In RB, the user can select the styles and instruments and manually recreate the same arrangement.

It's also possible to generate audio tracks in BIAB with a MultiStyle loaded, export the audio files and import them into RB.

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