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im not trying to be an A....but...
..the basic problem is both bb and rb have their plusses and minuses. seasoned guru users like charlie...understand those diffs. but its rather confuseing imho for new users. the solution imho pg should produce a chart showng those diffs.
..re multistyles...i bet most people getting a song down choose one style in getting a song down...especially new users. frankly...and maybe i AM a dim bulb...lol...but i find when ever i try to mix styles in a song things get very complex fast. i get a tad confused and also i find i cant get a song down fast when im in the zone...lets remember bb is very very deep.. this can be both a curse and a blessing imho. so what i do is split the problem up into manageable pieces. for example lets say i have 3 styles i want to use in a song... thus i would have 3 sgus...and then sort out the whole shebang and generated tracks in a daw. so lets say i started out in bb i would just drag drop the tracks from each sgu into rb or another daw i sometimes use. then in the daw move the tracks around as i want or bits of tracks. in summary i am sure if a poll of pg users were to be done i suggest lots of users would use a split the problem up approach. but maybe im wrong.
..now lets talk odd time sigs OTS....what happens if the user wants to have in a song several different styles AND several different ots.... oh boy !!!!...would drive me bonkers keeping everything straight in my mind. how would bb do things in this case ?? for me i know things would get very pear shaped very fast. at least rb handles ots visually in tracks view. which i find greatly helps. so in this case the technique i would use in a 3 style song is prolly have a different rb project for each style and then save the genned tracks and sort all out in a final fourth rb project instance.
frankly whether bb or rb i dont there is an ideal simple solution. at least in rb there are advantages re ots.... and even in normal time sigs i can see visually in rb the beat divisions in a bar so i can move bits of track around easily which i cant do in bb new tracks view... note...bb edit view doesnt let me do track edits in relation visually to other tracks...but rb tracks view does.
as can be seen from the above the whole thing is darn complex. imho there is no simple solution to these problems. imho the only solution is to split the prob into manageable chunks... rather like a programmer modularises a big computer app.... while not perfect at least rb has various tools to help. i wont even get into the added prob of fractional tempos... another useful feature of rb....then of course lets add in tempo changes in a song and things get even more complex. lets say the user wants fractional tempos and varying normal tempos and varying time sigs and varying key changes and varying styles in a song...im already getting a brain freeze...lol. only solution is to split the problem up imho useing the p!usses of bb and rb together depending on the situation as each app has its various plusses over the other.
just my 2 bonkers cents worth...lol now im gonna get a coffee to unfreeze my brain...lol.
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Last edited by justanoldmuso; 03/27/25 05:04 AM.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs(90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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