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Let's not over emphasize one DAW over another. It is about common UX approaches to make things more user friendly. (like all modern creative tools) Good Context menus is just one example. Remember they want specific examples vs what is already there.
The point made here was lots of smaller specific context menus dealing with each object on the screen.
So, it is the principle of right mouse click to see where you can go from here.
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1) Don't mix options with next actions. (separate place/button for local options)
2) Don't throw in paths that are not pertinent to next steps.
3) Don't do things in context menu that could be better done with supporting panels
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Let's not over emphasize one DAW over another. It is about common UX approaches to make things more user friendly. (like all modern creative tools) Good Context menus is just one example. Remember they want specific examples vs what is already there.
The point made here was lots of smaller specific context menus dealing with each object on the screen.
So, it is the principle of right mouse click to see where you can go from here.
Other points:
1) Don't mix options with next actions. (separate place/button for local options)
2) Don't throw in paths that are not pertinent to next steps.
3) Don't do things in context menu that could be better done with supporting panels +1
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If one DAW allows you to have whatever you want in whatever menu you want this allows users to decide and create the functions and layout they need then are not stuck with what the company thinks is best for them. As I said the video I posted showed all this but was deleted. I should not have to use AutoHotkey to create up the menus I need.
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To be able to enter N/C (No Chord) in Chord View.
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To be able to enter N/C (No Chord) in Chord View. A very old request. The puzzle is that this has always been among the shortcut chords in pgshortc.txt but it does not work.
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Thanks for your summary of the main topics Jeff, it's very helpful. And thanks everyone for your great ideas.
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Didn't see anything for a "new" thread, so this. Windows version 2025, here, with the latest build.
1) When setting up a tag ending, what makes the chord sheet temporarily jump back to measure one (as the tag begins), before quickly reverting back to the normal ending? Is there a simple workaround for this?
2) In working with the F5 key in muting tracks and the “back to normal” setting, might it be possible to exit the F5 view by “apply” only and not the “x”, as well? One click would save time, when doing a lot of editing.
3) When a song uses a utility track(s), shown in the mixer, the next song called-up in live play may not have utility tracks. However, the mixer continues to show the gray utility track until clicked away. Shouldn’t it revert back to the default view, if no utility track is present?
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"2) In working with the F5 key in muting tracks and the “back to normal” setting, might it be possible to exit the F5 view by “apply” only and not the “x”, as well? One click would save time, when doing a lot of editing."
I don't follow this one. F5 is now non-modal. You don't need to "apply" anything for mutes/back to normal. It applies changes automatically and you can navigate chord sheet as you wish selecting any other bar and continue further with mutes/unmutes until satisfied... without closing it. I am not even sure what that "apply" button does. You are 1 click (X) away from closing the dialog.
With hope that PGM is serious about UI design for 2026, most agree that modular panels are the way to go. If that is the case, I am sure that F5 will make it there, as it is a popular item.
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Wouldn't it be nice if we could drag and drop an audio track or tracks into the track view? If there are other tracks already we could align the audio with them. BiaB could either determine that audio track's tempo or match said track to BiaB tempo. If BiaB time signature were still only integers the audio track would have to be stretched or shortened accordingly. This could take the place of the ACW and all of its problems. YMMV
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With the advent of many plugins allowing you to drag block chords into the DAW, PGM should seriously be considering block chords as a drag and drop feature.
Dragging chords out of a plugin such as Scaler or Toon Track Keys VST3 onto the chord track should just automatically interpret the block chords as chords recognize the chords and enter the chords names into the chord track.
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Wouldn't it be nice if we could drag and drop an audio track or tracks into the track view? If there are other tracks already we could align the audio with them. BiaB could either determine that audio track's tempo or match said track to BiaB tempo. If BiaB time signature were still only integers the audio track would have to be stretched or shortened accordingly. This could take the place of the ACW and all of its problems. YMMV I am seriously intrigued by this suggestion. I tend to work in the other direction: I make a rhythm backing track then take the WAV file created by BIAB into another program, my notation program. Thus I don't use or need many of the features others use, such as VST3 support or the ACW. One reason I must go that way is the fact that BIAB is limited to tempos of integers only. If BIAB supported non-integer tempos, I could match up BIAB files with other software better. Or, as I think Mario is suggesting, if BIAB could IMPORT an audio file and normalize the tempo to two decimal places, I think it could change my workflow to keep me working in BIAB longer.
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One reason I must go that way is the fact that BIAB is limited to tempos of integers only.
If BIAB supported non-integer tempos, I could match up BIAB files with other software better. I know we all keep saying this. BUT WHY? BIAB can create a "tempo map" in the ACW which will match not not only fractional tempos, but varying tempos! So if it can do this why does the BIAB app not have the ability to manage this for us with any midi and audio it or we provide? 
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Here’s another reason for support of non-integer tempos: it should make it possible to allow tempo changes within the measure. Right now tempo changes occur only at the beginnings of measures. Ritards or accelerandos would be smother.
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And another reason, something I encountered once in a recording studio: the integer tempo may not be what it says it is. I took an acoustic guitar track made by BIAB into a recording studio to use as a click track for other instruments to play to. My track was a Bossa Nova recorded at quarter = 140. The studio discovered it wasn’t actually 140, but a tiny fraction under. I don’t remember the exact number but we got it very close at 139.8.
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I've added non-integer tempo as a feature request, id# 4993
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