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Mike.
thanks for the m2 boot info.
i agree..im sure it was the tech stores net slowing things down.
fyi...tbh...with this apple m series pc's..
this is the first time in my song creation life that ive given serious thought
to getting a apple product for song creation.
the m4 mini IS a beast...its just some things are 'niggles'.
but of course the same goes for the pc side of the house.
tho'...to be fair im super happy with my ry mini pc.
not one prob yet.
(ps Mike..many prayers re your stroke. i wish you always the very very best.)
Brian.
yep im sure your m4 is a beast of a bargain.
i also do the same with my mini ry pc re a usb extender...works
great. frankly on my ry 7 mini i have trouble getting above 25 percent
cpu use. and as its m.2 ssd bb gens are blink of an eye.
rb reports i can do over 200 tracks with it.
the ry does the job for me but then i dont do large track/plugin
counts in a song.
so particularly for creators useing lots of high resource useage vsti's etc..
i would probably recommend something else.
for example some of the songs in my sig used just pg vst fx plugs..
do the job for me on vocs.
imho if apple wanted to slay the pc market...
offer a 250 buck m1 or m2 mini pc barebones...user adds their own memory etc etc..
as well as two internal m.2 ssd's. sales would soar imho.
then once people got comfy do the old upgrade marketing strategy...
eg replace the m1 cpu with a m3 processor that plugis in...
ie similar strategy to iphones...new model every year.
wow...just the idea cranks me up...lol.
excites the whatsits out of me.
happiness to all.
om
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imho if apple wanted to slay the pc market...
offer a 250 buck m1 or m2 mini pc barebones...user adds their own memory etc etc.. Ain't never coming back. ARM has already come to PCs and as it becomes more popular, expect modular do go the way of the dodo. Why? A unified chip offers far greater power and efficiency at a much lower cost. Apple's last modular Mac was the 28 core 2019 Pro. Fully tricked out with the complete AV package, it cost over $56,000. Since it was designed to take on 56 core Win10 Maya Rendering boxes costing $150,000 at their own game and did it better, it was quite successful with the film and animation studios that were the target market (not needing to crunch animation for Hollywood, I had no need).. The version for us mortals was the iMac Pro 8–18 core @ $5,000 – $11,000 with 2TB storage—I had a 14 core, then 18 core and both were impressive. The 2023 Mac Studio M2 Ultra runs circles around both of those machines and cost me $6,000 with 8TB — yes, I have one so I don't have to speculate. A tricked out Mini M4 Pro is $2,800 with 2 TB storage. Absolutely overkill for anything that one wants to do with audio. A standard M4 Mini with 1TB onboard runs $1,000 and handles most needs. No monitor included but a 24" iMac with a 5K screen costs $1, 700. No one makes a modular PC that can touch those+ anywhere near the price. Oh, the Mac runs cool to the touch.
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Mike.
re unified...
good point but its all question of how much does a user need in terms of prerformance.
crikey even the little el cheapo 150 buk mini pc i got only for netting is pretty fast....not up to my song pc but useable.
i just feel that apple is loseing sales to low end el cheapo pc
configs and pc refurbs. one can find pc refurbs these days with ssd for peanuts with i5. ive even seen nice lenovos for under 100
buks on amazon....its nuts out there.
so my concept was get the punters into mac base model and accomplish two things....
..slay the low end pc market due to useing m series cpu...
..get people into the apple ecosystem...
its an old mktg strategy.
for example pg are smart in useing this biz strategy...
ie... their 120 buk or so on fast likkle drive....ie the pro pak.
heck of a deal imho.
in summary with the m tech plus user supplied mem...
one heck of work could be done.
imho it would sell like hot cakes.
(btw..wishing you the very very best re health matters.)
happiness.
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my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs(90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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i just feel that apple is loseing sales to low end el cheapo pc Apple doesn't want the low end market - they make more than enough money doing what they do and catering to the higher end market. It would be like asking Mercedes to build something to compete against Hyundai.
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imho if apple wanted to slay the pc market...
offer a 250 buck m1 or m2 mini pc barebones...user adds their own memory etc etc.. A tricked out Mini M4 Pro is $2,800 with 2 TB storage. Absolutely overkill for anything that one wants to do with audio. A standard M4 Mini with 1TB onboard runs $1,000 and handles most needs. No monitor included but a 24" iMac with a 5K screen costs $1, 700. No one makes a modular PC that can touch those+ anywhere near the price. Oh, the Mac runs cool to the touch. Exactly- The above config is pretty much all anyone needs. For BIAB and Logic (at least for those of us using less than 200 midi tracks) its more than enough. I use DaVinci Resolve and it gets the job done. Google Earth Pro, QGIS and ArcGIS. No problem. The only issue I have is stitching together UAV photogrammetry. That's a pretty hardware intensive operation. The solution to that is offload it to the many services that have popped up and will soon beat the price down where its not much of an issue. For 99.9999999% of computer users (who do a LOT less than the above) there is no need for even this much hardware. I've got an M2 mini 32GB with 4TB i bought a 2-3 years ago from AAPL refurb. Its all I need for a while.
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re giving up the low end....maybe consider the following..??
1..sadly many wonderfull high end studios no longer exist due to the creative power now available with a project studio.
2..i once worked for a tech company that was getting sales all over the world and growing like crazee. it was like a rocket ship.
but new entrants came into the market and now the company no longer exists.
just two examples...re dangers of ignoring the low end.
but we shall see what happens.
Mr G...that was a smart play getting a mini refurb imho because of the fast turnover of tech and new products.
before my new current ryz mini pc i did a ton of songs on a intel i5 refurb pc.
ithe ry was a ridiculous low price i couldnt say no to.
btw for any people lurking in the background there are some great threads/posts on gearspace.com re m4 mini.
loads of complimentary posts in the music computers section of GS.
some very very impressive performance stats.
@Simon....re mercs.
yeh where i live its tons of hyundais in driveways...way different from years ago.
hy has swept many car models of the past out of peoples driveways.
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om
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my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs(90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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i just feel that apple is loseing sales to low end el cheapo pc Apple doesn't want the low end market - they make more than enough money doing what they do and catering to the higher end market. It would be like asking Mercedes to build something to compete against Hyundai. That reminds me of an example given about design targets: Which is the better car, A Rolls Royce or a Citroen 2CV? If the purpose is for a peasant farmer to drive across a ploughed field with eggs on the passenger seat and a pig in the back, then it's the 2CV. That was the design brief for the deux-cheveaux and it met it perfectly.
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heres some interesting info re m4 mini. first is a looong thread of 35 pages...re m4 mini with loads of comments from studio folks. second is a vid about the m4 mini on a recent post in same thread. 1..the thread...oldest posts first.... https://gearspace.com/board/music-computers/1437461-new-mac-mini-m4.html2..vid...page down to see it. https://gearspace.com/board/music-computers/1437461-new-mac-mini-m4-35.htmlnotice the comment in the vid re m.2 socket. interesting vid. lots of info in above. frankly i think the m4 is pretty exciting....and hope this portends more amazeing apple product initiatives coming. ps...Gordon..lol...gotta love the 2CV. if PI gets to above 5ghz for cheap....watch out world imho assuming the price is still cheap. om
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ps...Gordon..lol...gotta love the 2CV.
if PI gets to above 5ghz for cheap....watch out world imho assuming the price is still cheap.
om 2CVs are great fun, but the doors really do fall off. The Pi hasn't reached that yet, but the Pi5 is £48 for 2.4GHz with 2GB of RAM. £76 with 8GB. Of course it's also only 4-core (64 bit), so a very long way from Apple's chips, but surprisingly good. It's not so long since PCs were way less powerful. Actually, I thing three of my older PCs are!
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Gordon. im really enjoying this mini pc era. im glad i kept an open mind and listened to you... there are so many exciting things happening in mini pc's. the reason i suggested apple have to be carefull re the low end is the pi is one example...but my mini pc i use for the net and useing it now cost peanuts under 150 buks. now its processor is slower but will turbo up to 3ghz etc. in a pinch if it was optimised fror music production it could handle i reckon a 40 track song possibly with a few low resource useage plugins. on my production ry mini bb loads in blink of an eye. but this el cheapo 20 secs. so its no speed demon. just good for email/general tasks etc. win boot from cold is surprisingly fast but ive turned off boot stuff i dont need. but to be fair i reckon if this el cheapo was around years ago the great producers of songs would have still produced kick A songs. why i think apple has to be carefull is imagine this puppy mini had a 5ghz processor or the PI...and could do big music production projects with big track and plugin counts all for under 250 bucks...watch out world....lol. my concern is if Apple offer only higher priced products that the rug might get pulled out from under them. its MBA basics...and repeated over and over in various markets. for example usb audio interfaces where lots of people are buying cheap interfaces because of price and bearing in mind the low end is getting sooo very good due to competition. im just riffing off your comment re pc's people used to use yonks ago to make music. finally the win mini pc's techs are advanceing very very fast now for little money... ..multiple m.2 slots ..5ghz cpu's ..usb 4 speed busses. ..higher speed memory. ..expandibility features etc etc. the only thing one has to be carefull is power wattage needs. which is why i chose a lower wattage ry cpu. but its way more than i need as im not running 200 tracks and plugins...lol. so lots of things happening that are exciting in both the apple and pc worlds. so im keeping myself aware of the mini pc offerings from various companies...eg beelink/minisforum/geekom and many others. these companies ARE selling product....and if you read reviews on the net and you tube lots of good star rateings....plus some will take 64 gb memory...eg..this beast... page down for tons of tech info. notice the bus speeds and other beastly features...lol. https://www.amazon.com/Beelink-PCIe4-0-Desktop-Computer-Fingerprint/dp/B0DXKR32ZPfun times...lol. happiness om
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the only thing one has to be carefull is power wattage needs.
which is why i chose a lower wattage ry cpu.
but its way more than i need as im not running 200 tracks and plugins...lol.
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om With all due respect my friend another thing one has to worry about is how well the mini PC is shielded. I bought a $550 (USD) mini for my Internet computer. When installing software I was not near my music studio and it worked perfectly. But when I moved the mini into my studio the mini was extremely noisy, i.e. unusable. Fortunately I got my money back on it. Note that I have two desktop computers, one for the Internet and one for music, in my studio and neither of them are noisy. I also have a $170 (USD) mini for my wife and it works just fine but again it is no wheres near my music studio. YMMV
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notice the comment in the vid re m.2 socket. It's not an M.2 slot, it's a proprietary slot. Thankfully it at least offers the possibility of third party upgrades and replacement, which will hopefully come to the M4 Pro soon. I worry about that on my own M1 machine - since the SSD is soldered to the main logic board, once the SSD wears out and fails the computer will become garbage. The Pi hasn't reached that yet, but the Pi5 is £48 for 2.4GHz with 2GB of RAM. £76 with 8GB. They're offering a 16gb version now, currently about $170 at some Canadian shops. Of course it's also only 4-core (64 bit), so a very long way from Apple's chips, but surprisingly good. If benchmarks are to be believed, the Pi 5 is roughly as powerful as a 2014 Mac Mini - not bad. My Pi 3B+ is apparently less powerful than a 2007 model... It's not so long since PCs were way less powerful. Actually, I thing three of my older PCs are! I know a few of my PCs are - I still have a 450mhz Pentium III kicking around! my concern is if Apple offer only higher priced products that the rug might get pulled out from under them. Well it's been working for them for 20 years or so...
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Mario. re noiseless pc. thats an excellent point. neither of my mini pc's have noise problems. i was carefull in my selection of a mini of course. the first thing i did was test the mini re dpc. turns out its one of the lowest dpc....so i kept it after various further testing. been a champ so far. the one used for the net im typing this on is fanless. of course if one wants a barn storming silent pc for music production and has the money...ie the following are beasts for music production..but i cant justify one personally cos of the fact musos make no money from plays on the net. https://silentpc.com/daw/there are many other companies also. but the nerd in me fancies one...lol. frankly a buyer has to be carefull re choice of mini pc...things are moving fast. what is exciting me is we are seeing more and more on these pc's up to 64 gigs of memory and multiple m.2's that a user can install. my production mini pc has 16 gigs mem cos thats all i need. Simon. re 'garbage'...yep thats troubling re hard soldered m1 ssd storage. im sure someone is working out or has worked out how to upgrade an m1. gonna check that out this week to see if theres a way. of course warranty would be invalidated. as to 'rugs' we shall see. om
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im sure someone is working out or has worked out how to upgrade an m1.
gonna check that out this week to see if theres a way.
of course warranty would be invalidated.
as to 'rugs' we shall see. I believe it's technically possible to use a hot air soldering station to remove and replace the raw flash chips, but that requires specialized tools, specific flash chips, and risks the possibility of damaging the motherboard even further. I wouldn't bother trying it myself, given that the machine is already 5 years old, and by the time the flash wears out it'll be much easier and preferable to simply get a new computer.
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It would be like asking Mercedes to build something to compete against Hyundai. Mercedes Benz does make the Smart Car. Just sayin’… I worry about that on my own M1 machine - since the SSD is soldered to the main logic board, once the SSD wears out and fails the computer will become garbage My wife’s M1 MacBook Air is showing 1% usage wear after nearly 5 years. If a laptop, the NAND is soldered. Apple Silicon Desktops have socketed NAND. It’s proprietary as the controller is built into the CPU but upgrades and replacements are available on the grey market from those reboxing the Samsung OEM.
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Mercedes Benz does make the Smart Car. Just sayin’… Yes, but it's not really branded as a Mercedes product. I view it a bit more like Toyota/Lexus, or to keep things music related Gibson/Epiphone. This kind of branding isn't common in the computer world. Not to mention that Apple is far from the only company who only caters to the upscale market - Microsoft makes the Surface which is more expensive than the cheaper iPads, but they don't make a low end version. My wife’s M1 MacBook Air is showing 1% usage wear after nearly 5 years. My Mini is showing 21% after 5 years, which could be extrapolated to say I'll get 25 years of life out of it - however it's also showing 628tb written, which on a 1tb SSD is VERY high. Most 1tb SSD's are rated for 300-600TBW which I've already crossed. If a laptop, the NAND is soldered. Apple Silicon Desktops have socketed NAND. It’s proprietary as the controller is built into the CPU but upgrades and replacements are available on the grey market from those reboxing the Samsung OEM. Not all Apple Silicon desktops are socketed - so far only the Pro, Studio, and now the M4 Mini. All of the M1-M4 iMacs and M1-M2 Minis have storage soldered to the logic board.
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It's not so long since PCs were way less powerful. Actually, I thing three of my older PCs are! I know a few of my PCs are - I still have a 450mhz Pentium III kicking around! You had to, didn't you?  OK ... I checked. My oldest PC is a 2004 laptop with a 1.5GHz AMD 64-bit something, so I think you probably win the "mine's wimpier than yours" challenge. I'm pretty sure a Pi 5 would blow it away, especially as the laptop is still on spinning rust storage.
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well heres some rumours re the raspberry pi 6.. google for more info. https://9meters.com/technology/raspberry-pi-6-rumors-point-to-massive-upgrades-if-we-ever-see-itdunno if we shall see such...but one can dream...lol. and Mac m5 processors ? https://www.geeky-gadgets.com/m5-mac-mini-leaks/i gotta say...as ive said before...i really like what apple is doing.. and i would have rushed out to get a mac mini m4 if but for the hard soldered issue. that bugs me. plus i can get mini pc with tons more memory... sigh. lol...i would love the challenge to see if i could get realband running on it under win emulation...but maybe i would fail miserably...lol. just haveing fun. ps i got an old i5 refurb here stored away for one of those winters i get bored and maybe will see what it can do with a linux distribution for fun. om
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When you order purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2026 before 11:59 PM PDT on May 31st, you'll also receive a Free Bonus PAK packed with exciting new add-ons.
Check out the Band-in-a-Box® for Mac packages page to find the best package for you.
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Today's the Last Day of the Band-in-a-Box 2026® for Mac Special!
Order before 11:59pm PDT today (May 15, 2026) to save up to 50% off your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® upgrade and receive a FREE Bonus PAK loaded with great new Add-ons to use with this new version!
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Check out all the new features in the redesigned Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac - Special Offers End at 11:59pm PDT on Friday, May 15th, 2026!
Order before 11:59pm PDT on Friday, May 15th and SAVE up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® version 2026 for Mac Upgrade packages... and that's not all! With your version 2026 for Mac purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks... that's 222 NEW RealTracks available with version Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac!
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® today for as little as $49! Check out the Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all available purchase options.
Learn more about the Free Bonus PAK and 49-PAK here.
If you have any questions about which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We're here to help!
202 New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2026!
With Band-in-a-Box® 2026, we've released 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 468-488) in a variety of genres—featuring your most requested styles!
Jazz, Funk & World (Sets 468-475):
Our new jazz, funk & blues RealTracks include a groovin’ collection of RealTracks and RealDrums! These include more requested “soul jazz” RealTracks featuring artists Neil Swainson (bass), Charles Treadway (organ), Brent Mason (guitar), and Wes Little (drums). There are new “smooth jazz” styles (4), which include a RealTracks first: muted trumpet, as well as slick new smooth jazz brushes options for drums. Blues lovers will be thrilled—there are more “classic acoustic blues” styles, including guitar (5), bass (4), and drums (10) with blues master Colin Linden, featuring understated and tasty background acoustic soloing, plus brushes drums and acoustic bass. There are also new electric blues RealTracks, including electric blues with PG favorite Johnny Hiland (3) and soulful electric slide guitar from Colin Linden (4). If you love funk & gospel, there are great new options this year, including gospel organ (3) from Charles Treadway, as well as new funk, tango, and rock ’n’ roll drums (3) and bass (1). And for big, bold arrangements, we have uptempo soul horns (4) featuring a three-part hip horn section with options for a full mix or stems of each individual horn — plus an accompanying rhythm section (4) of drums, bass, guitar, and electric piano!
Rock & Pop (Sets 476–482):
Our new rock & pop RealTracks bring a powerful mix of requested favorites, fresh genres, and modern chart-inspired styles! We have more of our popular “Producer Layered Acoustic Guitars (15)” featuring Band-in-a-Box favorite Brent Mason. We’ve continued our much-requested disco styles (10), and added new Celtic guitar (5) with a more basic, accessible approach than our previous Drop-D or DADGAD offerings. There are also highly requested yacht rock styles (17), inspired by the smooth, polished soft-rock sound of the late ’70s and early ’80s — laid-back grooves, silky electric pianos, warm textures, elegant harmonic movement, and pristine production aesthetics. Fans of heavier styles will love our new glam metal (13), capturing the flashy, high-energy sound of ’80s arena-ready guitar rock. We also have a set of rootsy modern-folk rock (18), with a warm, organic sound combining contemporary folk textures and driving acoustic strumming. And we’ve added lots of new modern pop styles (16) — the kinds of sounds you’re hearing on the radio today, featuring exciting new drums, synths, and cutting-edge RealTracks arrangements.
Country, & Americana (Sets 483–488):
Our new country & Americana RealTracks deliver a rich collection of acoustic, electric, and roots-inspired styles! We have new country pop (9) with legendary guitarist Brent Mason. There is also a potpourri (14) of bouzouki, guitars, banjo, and more, perfect for adding texture and character to contemporary acoustic arrangements. We’ve added funky country guitar (5) with PG favorite Brent Mason, along with classic pedal steel styles (5) featuring steel great Doug Jernigan. There are more country songwriter styles (8) that provide intimate, rootsy foundations for storytelling and modern Americana writing. Finally, we have “background soloing” acoustic guitar (12) with Brent Mason — simpler, but still very tasty acoustic lines designed to sit beautifully behind vocals or act as a subtle standalone solo part.
Check out all the 202 new RealTracks (in sets 468-488)!
And, if you are looking for more, the 2026 49-PAK (for $49) includes an impressive collection of 20 bonus RealTracks, featuring exciting and inspiring additions to add to your RealTracks library. You'll get new country-rhythm guitar styles from PG Music favorites Johnny Hiland and Brent Mason, along with modern-pop grooves that capture today’s radio-ready sound! There are also new indie-folk styles with guitar, bass, 6-string bass used as a high-chording instrument, acoustic guitar, and banjo. Plus, dedicated "cymbal fills" RealDrums provide an added layer that work very well with low-key folky styles with other percussion.
The 2026 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2026 49-PAK!
2026 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!
With your version 2026 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
- MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
- Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
- Playable RealTracks Set 5
- RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
- SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
- iOS Android Band-in-a-Box® App
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
- Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
- RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
- SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)
Learn more about the Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!
XPro & Xtra Styles PAK Sets On Sale Now - Until May 15, 2026!
All of our XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAKs are on sale until May 15th, 2026!
It's the perfect time to expand your Band-in-a-Box® style library with XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs. These additional styles for Band-in-a-Box® offer a wide range of genres designed to fit seamlessly into your projects. Each style is professionally arranged and mixed, helping enhance your songs while saving you time.
What are XPro Styles and Xtra Styles PAKs?
XPro Styles PAKs are styles that work with any version (Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition) of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). XPro Styles PAKS 1-10 includes 1,000 styles!
Xtra Styles PAKs are styles that work with the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). Xtra Styles PAKs 1-21 includes 3,700 styles (and 35 MIDI styles)!
The XPro & Xtra Styles PAKs are not included in any Band-in-a-Box® package.
The XPro Styles PAKs 1-10 are available for only $29 ea (reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Listen to demos and order now! For Mac or for Windows.
The Xtra Styles PAKs 1-21 are available for only $29 ea (reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the Xtra Styles PAK Bundle for only $199 (reg. $349)! Listen to demos and order now! For Mac or for Windows.
Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 19 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version as they require the RealTracks included in the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Supercharge your Band-in-a-Box today with XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAK Sets!
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