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This 1/2 price sale looks like a no-brainer. I have used Nectar as my go to vocal processing tool for years. I only upgrade when i see something like this sale come along. But of course I always do a sanity check and ask here if any one has beat me to this and if they have any quidance? grin

Looks like the $75 offer is 1/2 price of the 1/2 price based on upgrade from Nectar 3, which I happen to have.

https://www.izotope.com/en/products/nectar.html


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This 1/2 price sale looks like a no-brainer. I have used Nectar as my go to vocal processing tool for years. I only upgrade when i see something like this sale come along. But of course I always do a sanity check and ask here if any one has beat me to this and if they have any quidance? grin

Looks like the $75 offer is 1/2 price of the 1/2 price based on upgrade from Nectar 3, which I happen to have.

https://www.izotope.com/en/products/nectar.html

I didn't see that price anywhere in that link, even after I signed into my account.

I already have Nectar 4 Advanced as part of Music Production Suite 7 and agree that it's a great tool for vocal processing.


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https://www.izotope.com/en/deals/loyalty-nectar-mps?lid=wp1y8td2xo4x&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&utm_campaign=Vocal%20Production%20FS%20Reminder%2002%20%7C%20NEC%203%20&%20MPS%204-5%20%7C%2010/04/25&utm_id=b28866e2-ee1f-4e89-b3b1-434131347d02&utm_content=newsletter-email_b28866e2-ee1f-4e89-b3b1-434131347d02_Vocal%20Production%20FS%20Reminder%2002%20%7C%20NEC%203%20&%20MPS%204-5%20%7C%2010/04/25

Try this link, emailed to me. Flash sale for one more week.


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I've got Music Production Suite upgrade for $299. My last purchases were 2019-20. Seems like a no-brainer too. I'd be going up at least 2 versions for the big products. Love the harmony voices in Nectar 4.


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Thanks guys for the input.

Pretty sure I will pull the trigger today. I downloaded the 10 day demo. At first I was a bit leary. I saw a lot of the complexity of Nectar 3 which caused me to often just use the "PreSets". But than I spent some time with this video.



I saw a lot of things I really liked. Izotope has always done a great job of doing these learning videos.


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I still use Nectar 2 for one reason - I very much like the EMT 140 Plate Reverb sim that was dropped in Nectar 3. I’ve used it on Janice’s vocals for years. On another note 😀 as usual Izotope has not declared compatibility with OS Sonoma for a host of plugins that I own. The OS final version was released in October. I assume they wait as long as possible to force some folks to upgrade. Very oddly my ancient Nectar 2 works with Sonoma. 🤷‍♂️ I’ve moved more and more to Waves. I do have Ozone 11 but I prefer Ozone 10 as 11 will not accept my many user created 10 presets. Pardon the ramble.

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ARG!!! Now I have to decide between upgrading Nectar 4 advanced for $75 or Music Production Suite 7 (which includes Nectar 4 advanced) upgrade for $299! I am def doing one or the other! I LOVE all of my izotope products!

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Why not pick up a second hand license from knobcloud? Average price for Music Production Suite 7 is $175 (full version) from reputable re-seller with 100+ transactions.

I can understand why we need to support small companies, but Izotope and its parents.... I am not worried about them staying in business.

"Second hand" license is a full legal license transfer. Ohh I got my Production suite this way smile

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I just watched several Nectar 4 vids and I am much less excited about it after hearing what it does or, rather, doesn't do. I am always looking for a simple tech way to implement passable vocal harmonies but what I've seen so far are just nothing much more than what Nectar 3 already does and those are just not all that great. They really only suffice when you bury them in the mix and I'm looking for something to lift up the mix. I dunno, I might find stuff in there to convince me but so far I have not. Anyone know of any convincing demos of good vocal harmony parts created with Nectar 4?

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Originally Posted by DrDan
https://www.izotope.com/en/deals/loyalty-nectar-mps?lid=wp1y8td2xo4x&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&utm_campaign=Vocal%20Production%20FS%20Reminder%2002%20%7C%20NEC%203%20&%20MPS%204-5%20%7C%2010/04/25&utm_id=b28866e2-ee1f-4e89-b3b1-434131347d02&utm_content=newsletter-email_b28866e2-ee1f-4e89-b3b1-434131347d02_Vocal%20Production%20FS%20Reminder%2002%20%7C%20NEC%203%20&%20MPS%204-5%20%7C%2010/04/25

Try this link, emailed to me. Flash sale for one more week.
Use DrDan's link and after adding to your cart apply the following voucher code for another 10% off!

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UPDATE: That SONIC10 code actually takes 20% off of Dan's link!!! So I just upgraded to Nectar 4 advanced for $59.60 plus tax! This price point erased my concerns I whined about above! For less than 60 clams I'm willing to give it a go! laugh

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How much do people use it compared to other voice mixing tools eg EZMix?
Do you use both or will one take over by excellence or do they have completely differet usage?

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So many tools, so little time! I use them all! But, of couse the Izotope family are the big guns in the PC area. Between Nectar, Neutron, RX11, and Ozone there is little more anyone would need to process vocals (singing, rap, voice over). With a steady steam of updates for each of these products they seem to me merging. There are some tools present in the last upgrade of Neutron which are now present in this new upgrade to Nectar 4. EZMix4 recently have a big upgrade which makes it a contender, but fact is it is just a huge collection of presets which appeal to those with little interest in digging deeper. The Isotope line also has a collection of pre-sets. Sometimes you find one of these presets and the hunt is over, it is perfect. Other times you just need to tweek and tweek. In those cases, Izotope is a tweek god.


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I use Nectar and Ozone on every mix!

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Originally Posted by JohnJohnJohn
UPDATE: That SONIC10 code actually takes 20% off of Dan's link!!! So I just upgraded to Nectar 4 advanced for $59.60 plus tax! This price point erased my concerns I whined about above! For less than 60 clams I'm willing to give it a go! laugh

Great find. Stuff like this is why I posted here in the first place. Too bad I am not patient with my purchases. I picked this up yesterday. cry


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UPDATE: That SONIC10 code actually takes 20% off of Dan's link!!! So I just upgraded to Nectar 4 advanced for $59.60 plus tax! This price point erased my concerns I whined about above! For less than 60 clams I'm willing to give it a go! laugh

Great find. Stuff like this is why I posted here in the first place. Too bad I am not patient with my purchases. I picked this up yesterday. cry
Thanks for the post! I've not been paying attention to my izotope toolbox lately. Been spending my music time with Synth V. But I'm quite happy with this new Nectar so far!!! You da man, Dan!

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I can understand why we need to support small companies, but Izotope and its parents.... I am not worried about them staying in business.

iZotope is now owned by Native Instruments. Yea, ain’t going anywhere. Their upgrades and bundles overlap and are confusing as hell. For example, I have Music Production Suite 6.5 and Komplete and they include everything in MPS 7.0 below.

The worst kept secret in the music industry is that iZotope does not qualify upgrades like nearly everybody else. I expected that to change after the NI purchase a couple years ago but it hasn’t happened yet. What this means is that if you buy this $199 iZotope Music Production Suite Upgrade Bundle, you get everything in it. There’s a bit of work once you get the codes as the NI and Bx tools come from NI and Brainwork’s (also owned by NI) and Melodyne comes from Celemony but when you’re done creating accounts with 4 companies and setting everything up, you’re good.

I wasn’t happy when Nectar went to Melodyne Essentials and dropped their internal pitch engine and reverb modules but nothing one can do about that now. The presets are great and everything can be tweaked behind the hood. I do miss the original version of Nectar, however.


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Well that's interesting.
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Originally Posted by JohnJohnJohn
ARG!!! Now I have to decide between upgrading Nectar 4 advanced for $75 or Music Production Suite 7 (which includes Nectar 4 advanced) upgrade for $299! I am def doing one or the other! I LOVE all of my izotope products!
$75 is sweet but MPS7 packs serious firepower if you’ll use it all

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re Nectar.

obviously nectar is a very very nice product.

but please also look at the plugins i tested out and detailed in the pg tips forum.
there are absolute gems there for not just voice processing but also instruments and audio in general.

just one example are the many airwindows plugins that many studios large and small love who are on gearspace.com where tons of studios large and small hang out.
(just google 'gearspace airwindows plugins' for user references.
the plugins i tested and reported in the pg tips forum are not just very nice plugins but also dont use a lot of pc resources.)

finally the plugins i tested in many cases are labours of love by the developers who have tons of dsp software experience.
the plugins run the whole gamut.

lets also not forget pg's own dx plugins.
many of the songs in my sig used them and ive never had complaints but had various likes.
(note other songs in my sig used big studio expensive gear.
see if you can id which ones viz the songs that used pg's dx plugins.).

in summary please dont discount the plugins ive tested and reported on in the pg tips forum. some even emulate outboard hardware that big studios used to buy costing big big money.
there are even plugins there that emulate vintage gear etc etc if this is ones interest....links are provided in the pg tips forum thread.

hope this helps someone.
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A bit of a surprized from Isotope. But it is relatievely cheap (~$50) and you can download and use for free for 10days. Let us know who gives it a try first and what you find.



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A bit of a surprized from Isotope. But it is relatievely cheap (~$50) and you can download and use for free for 10days. Let us know who gives it a try first and what you find....

$49 unless you qualify for a $39 Loyalty Upgrade after logging into your iZotope account. or buying from Sweetwater.

I'm going to pass. iZotope nickels and dimes us in between major releases, often for functionality we've already purchased in other tools. In this case, I suspect that Velvet is actually this module from Nectar 4 and since I already have that…

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Tame sibilant vocal sounds in seconds with Nectar’s new De-esser module.

A good de-esser allows inexpensive microphones to be viable in today's studios. The high end anomalies in many mics are particularly cruel to sibilants—not an issue with my ribbons and my go-to Neumanns but otherwise indispensable.

$49/$39 for Velvet is an excellent bargain if it a) performs as advertised and b) you don't already have something as good.

That said, I'm of the opinion that very few de-essers perform as advertised. This one, however, is a major exception and I'm quite glad to have picked it up at an introductory price — lot more expensive now.
eiosis e²DEESSER

Next time I have the need, I'll run an A/B comparison between the two.


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re de essers.

i would check out some freebies and test.
i would be surprised if anyone didnt find one they liked.

eg....

https://midination.com/vst/free-vst-plugins/free-de-esser-vst/#:~:text=Kicking%20off%20this%20list

Also loadsof plugins tested on you tube.

note ive posted in tips n tricks loads of fx etc plugins that should be checked out imho. ive found some amazeing stuff
eg airwindows plugins as one example of many people doing some higly interesting dsp plugins.
amongst their huge variety of plugins is a de esser.

just an idea. hope this helps someone...

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7 free deesser plugins

Most of these have been around a long time I recognise those I've tried and forgotten. The "information" is copied and pasted from the developers; no actual reviews on that page.

I don't believe that any are adaptive. As it turns out, that's the trick that makes the good ones worth having. If you can hear them working, you're listening to unwelcome artifacts—no thanks. Yes, they're free and worth every penny.


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I recently spent $59.60 to upgrade to Nectar 4 so $50 sounds steep for one feature that Nectar 4 already has. I'd love to hear an A-B between Nectar 4 and Velvet if anyone has both.

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Mike.

ive used many paid and free plugins over the years.
as always there are nice ones in each category ive found.

go on gearspace.com where tons of studios large and small hang out and ask what their favorite paid and free plugins are.
for example the free airwindows plugins have a impressive rep on GS if one peruses the threads.

as with any product 'the proof of the pudding is in the eating'.
best bet is, as always listen to others and ones own tests.
ive had great steak at high end diners and lousy steak....lol.

i can remember years ago showing big studios for example what the pg powertracks could do for hamburger money.
i was laughed at and derided initially when i mentioned it until i demoed it in detail and its extensive features.
the reaction always 'for how much money ?'
'amazeing'.
same with free or nearly free plugins...just gotta find the groovy ones.

given the state the music biz is in and the fact that even if one has a great song... and one is lucky to get 100 net plays a year its difficult for many musos to justify expenditures.

so one soldiers on doing the best one can with what one has.
the crazy thing is ive done some songs in big studios with the greatest gear but 'the man in the street' preferred the rough demo i did at home useing pg and non pg free plugins.
i put it down to us studio types are often super critical and analytical re our songs whereas the 'man in the street' has a very different viewpoint often.
ive said many times on these fora that if all martin/the abbey/the beatwells had for software gear is bb and rb...they would still churn out great songs imho.

haveing said the above the nectar products are obviously impressive imho.
but would the 'man in the street' notice a diff if one used free plugins instead ?. frankly i often tame sibs etc with pg plugins and eq.
the free audacity has various tools re improveing audio includeing de esser if i remember.

happiness.

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I recently spent $59.60 to upgrade to Nectar 4 so $50 sounds steep for one feature that Nectar 4 already has. I'd love to hear an A-B between Nectar 4 and Velvet if anyone has both.

The word I've received is that Velvet is the new Deesser module from Nectar 4. There is no reason to have both.

I tried it today on some 30 year old band tracks. The only copies I have are on cassette and I don't know how many generations my copies are. A couple of the members have passed away and the original tapes were wiped three decades ago. Anyway, the Deesser module is quite impressive and very easy to use with a nice visual indicator of when it's working. I figured that some of the distortion on this tape would never go away but setting the threshold down to -13.9dB did the trick.

It's a worthy competitor to eiosis and 1/3 the price.

The best deesser plugs don't let you hear 'em working.


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Having finished that project, I had to use eiosis on a couple of tracks as the Deesser module in Nectar 4 just wasn't up to the task. These tape are in bad shape and I had to make the choice between spots of noise or noticeable pumping but still intelligible words — yikes! Oh well, my colleague shouldn't have taped over the Masters 30 years ago. Such is life.

Anyway, Nectar 4's Deesser module / Velvet is all most of us need — uses dynamic eq and not simple filtering like any of the freeware I've ever used. It can't perform miracles, however (neither can eiosis but it can handle tasks overwhelm Velvet).


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