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... Everything is easy for the person not doing it... Not a particularly objective statement, frankly. I don't believe that it was ever suggested in any way by any of the contributors that 'everything is easy'. I do understand that people tried to assist with suggestions and recommendations to assist the O/P as best that they could.
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I run sound for every concert in our church, in addition to running sound for dozens of shows over my career (though I'm usually on the performing end).
I still think we need more info.
What is the OP running Garage Band on at home? If it's a laptop, and if I understand correctly, could the OP bring and use the laptop he has at home, with the plugin in Garage Band that makes his in-ear monitor sound better, then take the output of that laptop into the church PA? That takes the sound engineer out of the loop, by sending him the signal the OP wants to hear and does hear. If the OP does not have a laptop at home, is it within budget to get one? Yes I running into a MACbook pro at home which I was thinking is obvious since I'm running GB. Perhaps I'm not explaining myself correctly. This has nothing to do with the tone that's in the house. I wear in-ears so I could care less. The whole problem is the guitar tones coming from GB into my headphones is fair superios that what's coming down to my pack at church using a very expensive Midas board. I'm trying to get the in-ear tones at church as good as they are at home. Which possibly means, having the sound guy add something inbetween the board and my ears or maybe there's something I can put between the Kemper and the XLR cable that is taking my signal to front of house. Hope that make sense. But the main problem is the guitar tone at church is nowhere near as good as it is at home and it's because of this ambient vocal effect that's inherent in GB. Hopefully that clarifies things. If not, I'm going to just drop it. thanks.
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I think I almost understood that, until you mentioned a vocal effect being nice on your guitar.
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I'm a little confused when you say..........
This has nothing to do with the tone that's in the house. I wear in-ears so I could care less. The whole problem is the guitar tones coming from GB into my headphones is fair superios that what's coming down to my pack at church using a very expensive Midas board. I'm trying to get the in-ear tones at church as good as they are at home
Does that mean you really don't mind what the congregation hears as long as your guitar sounds good in your in-ear phones? This gets more and more confusing as we go along.
And as an aside I played in a church band for several years, i've played in a few different churches since then and once in a cathedral as our Bishop left to become the Archbishop of Canterbury. In every case we had the opportunity of a sound check. The OP refers to a rehearsal in his early post so I presume he doesn't just turn up, plug in and go on 'cold' to a service.
But I'm going to give up posting in this thread and wish the OP luck in the future.
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"Does that mean you really don't mind what the congregation hears as long as your guitar sounds good in your in-ear phones? This gets more and more confusing as we go along."
I don't or have control over what's in the house. I only have control over what's in my ears. I don't understand what you're confused about. I can't hear the house, because I'm obviously wearing in-ears. If the sound guy doesn't like my tone, he can tell and we'll deal with it but my post has nothing to do with what's in the house. This is an in-ear issue. I'm a little frustrated with your remarks, it's clear we're not on the same page. sorry.
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it's one of those things that I didn't realize was happening. I still don't know how that affect got on there, but it makes a huge difference. It's more 3d sounding, more depth and detail. It works what can I say.
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A number of us would like to help but when you don’t know what’s going on, we don’t either. If you could tell us the console and what’s driving the in-ears, perhaps we might have a clue. The Midas division of MusicTribe makes a wide variety from high end consoles for touring and fixed installations to home studio boxes that are reboxed Behiringer.
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I think part of the difficulty here is that there's some confusion about exactly what you mean by some of the words you wrote, for example it is unclear exactly what you mean by "run a Kemper", though I think we understand that's the 'profiler'. I think also there may be some language issues, because sometimes the choice of words sounds slightly odd, for example I wonder if "vocal effect" really means something else than 'vocal', maybe 'chorus'?
Could you describe your full set-up in a little more detail, so that we understand better what you have where in your signal path?
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I think part of the difficulty here is that there's some confusion about exactly what you mean by some of the words you wrote, for example it is unclear exactly what you mean by "run a Kemper", though I think we understand that's the 'profiler'. ... Yes, earlier on, I asked : Just to clarify, when you say you are using a Kemper live, you're using a "Kemper Profiler live"? (Not a Kemper Kabinet or anything else.) I believe that I never received a response to that simple question. Since then I just kept getting more confused from the O/P's comments. Good luck. I hope that the O/P eventually gets this sorted out.
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I believe he wants Fx's fed to his in-ear monitor feed at Church. The console brand, analog or digital is irrelevant. Regardless what it is, we know from his explanations, it has a monitor feed to him on stage. Just need to add his preferred effect to his monitor feed.
What's missing is what is creating the missing effect. Is it the Kemper, GB or some other device? Determine what is creating effect and add it to his monitor feed, either as an external device or duplicate the settings internally using on-board effects if possible.
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Yes, earlier on, I asked : [quote]Just to clarify, when you say you are using a Kemper live, you're using a "Kemper Profiler live"? (Not a Kemper Kabinet or anything else.) Yes, that's why I picked that particular thing, but there were several other ambiguities. I notice the thread is now marked resolved, so I guess the OP either found a solution or just concluded that there was nothing to be done about it.
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Yes, it’s marked Resolved. It’s unfortunate because we surely would have been able to help more.
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Yes, it’s marked Resolved. It’s unfortunate because we surely would have been able to help more. Yes I got the issue resolved.
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