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Created a song in BIAB 2025, entered the lyrics, generated a melody for the song and then I tried to use the Vocal Generator.
1. the pop up message indicated the song did not contain any lyrics and, therefore, biab would just add some vocal oohs and aahs.
2. the song DOES contain lyrics as I am looking at them
3. the "Play" button does generate the oohs and aahs
Am I missing anything or is that all there is to see/hear? Does Biab really sing the lyrics or the oohs and aahs are all it can do?
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Did you follow the directions in the manual?
Generating Synthetic Vocal
Your Melody or Soloist track with lyrics can be rendered to a vocal audio track, with built-in support for the popular online vocal synth “Sinsy.”
To access this feature, you should first enter melodies and note-based lyrics to the Melody or Soloist track. If no lyrics are present, you can still generate a vocal synth using the syllable of your choice (e.g. la la la).
Press the [Vocal Synth] button on the Notation window toolbar or right-click on the Notation window and select either of the Vocal Synth menu items.
With the manual mode, Band-in-a-Box creates a Sound.XML file, which you need to upload to the Sinsy server. When the Sinsy has generated an audio file with a vocal synth, import it to Band-in-a-Box.
Normally, you would use the auto mode, which does this process automatically for you. When you choose an auto mode, the Generate Synthetic Vocal dialog will open.
Language: The choice is English or Japanese. Select English unless your lyrics are entered in Japanese.
Vocalist: Choose one of the female or male vocalists. If the language is set to English, you can only select an English singer.
Gender Parameters: You can adjust the gender of the voice in a range from -0.8 to +0.8. Higher values are more masculine. The default is 0.55.
Vibrato Intensity: This controls the amount of vibrato in the voice. The range is from 0 to 2. The default is 1.
Pitch Shifting: This setting will shift pitch in semitones. The range is from -24 to +24. A setting of -12 would be down one octave. The default is 0.
For Melody notes with no lyrics use: If the track does not include lyrics, you can enter a syllable (.e.g. la) to use for notes with no lyrics. (Note: If you select a Japanese vocalist, you need to enter a Japanese syllable.)
When you press [OK], your song will be sent automatically to the Sinsy server and will be rendered to a vocal synth. This may take a few minutes.
When the vocal synth has been generated and imported to the Audio track, a flash message shows, and the Mixer expands to show the Audio panel.
Press the [Play] toolbar button to hear the vocal synth singing your song!
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rayc
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Your Melody or Soloist track with lyrics can be rendered to a vocal audio track, with built-in support for the popular online vocal synth “Sinsy.” I didn't even know there's such a feature. Thanks Ray ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/images/icons/default/thumbs_up.gif)
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To access this feature, you should first enter melodies and note-based lyrics to the Melody or Soloist track. This is probably the issue - if lyrics were entered as bar-based lyrics, they wouldn't work. We have a tutorial video on lyric entry here - please follow the first method in the video:
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To summarize, vocals must be "note based" and not "bar based". Been a while, but Sinsy was (and may still be) a very early and somewhat crude vocal synth, especially for English. Some vocal samples can be found here.
Last edited by DC Ron; 04/28/25 05:13 PM.
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I agree with Ron. Sinsy results can be quite average, especially compared to some of the vocaloids available in the market today. But it can be a starting point...
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