Noel.

i think you nailed it.

this is a problem when mids are downloaded from the net.
one doesnt know what midi control parameters the creator might have put in.

heres another thing to ponder.
lets consider the following scenario.

lets say the the user sets the start of subsequent loops/choruses
after first play thru to say bar 3 and not right at the start of the song..
then probably because the voice parameter has been set to zero at the end of the very first pass thru the song THEN its not being re-initialised
for subsequent passes...right ??

conclusion is i dont think its a bb problem.
its how the mid was created viz control parameters.
in rb i had no probs playing the mid...and remember the rb event editor and midi monitor are very usefull 'tools' to do detective work as to what control and other parameters the creator of the midi put into the midi data stream.

for the op and lurkers heres two other little probs to be aware of
when one dloads a midi one didnt create.

1..one sets the midi tracks to ones preferred voices BUT they get reset to the original voices. reason being the way the midi author embedded commands into the midi file. thus these need to be analysed and stripped out say in rb which has lots of tools for analysis etc that i mentioned.

2..some authors will do some clever things to protect the midi song they created. so once again clever control parameters are inserted in the midi data stream. some authors might do this due to the work they put into the creating the midi song which can take rather a lot of work sometimes.

in conclusion over the years ive seen what some might say say are 'odd situations' when it comes to midi songs.

ps..let me say once again the choruses bb feature needs addressing.
yes i know its due to the way jazzers think BUT it often baffles new users and songwriters who think differently...
ie intros//verses//choruses//bridges//outtros etc etc.
which is why when i use bb i set choruses to 1 always and then use my own labels in the bb chord sheet eg i use V for bridge C for chorus I for intro...O for outtro etc etc. and i can use also the 'layers' feature in the chord sheet also.
in summary this whole jazz/chorus aspect needs to be reconsidered for non jazzers imho cos it keeps on coming up and confuses lots of non jazz genre users i suggest.

happiness.

om

Last edited by justanoldmuso; 05/24/25 02:49 AM.
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