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Truth is I only use the barest functionality these days - chuck a few chords in pick a style.
Anyways....I have just realised (My bad?) that as a piano player of a decent level, it does me a world of good to take a phrase here and there, of the piano player, on a real track and emulate him/her. This involves looping a couple of bars.
How can I stop loosing the particular re-generation of these bars - in a non flaky way?
It's so easy for band in a box to loose settings if one steps out of line.
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Last edited by ZeroZero; 05/28/25 12:03 AM.
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ZeroZero, Not sure what you specifically mean by "flaky". Here is my workflow. Video is from last year, still relevant. Skip to 3:30 for partial regen . Once you use partial regen track will become semi-frozen. You will still be able to regenerate parts of it with same partial regen method, but you will not lose any particular segment that you like (because track is semi-frozen)
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My workflow now is,
1) choose a style (being careful not to fall in love with any riffs until later on)
2) enter all chords for all sections (verses/choruses/bridge) and save it
3) finalize things like tempo, key, rests, etc. and save it
4) freeze it and save it
5) work through each bar as needed doing partial regen and save it
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Thank you lads. I tried the video it does not woerk here - its probably my PC.
I have never bothered with freeze before. The narrative around this seems to be about freezing tracks - not bars.
What I am wondering is can I find a way to manage, or freeze, a couple of bars.
John John (how ye doing mate!) mentioned a 'partial regeneration'. I don't know how to do this and am not finding it via help.
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Thank you lads. I tried the video it does not woerk here - its probably my PC.
I have never bothered with freeze before. The narrative around this seems to be about freezing tracks - not bars.
What I am wondering is can I find a way to manage, or freeze, a couple of bars.
John John (how ye doing mate!) mentioned a 'partial regeneration'. I don't know how to do this and am not finding it via help.
Z Cheers Z! 1) freeze track and then select some bars on that track 2) press F8 or right click on one of the selected bars and choose Multiriff 3) at top of dialog choose track you wish to regen 4) in bottom right area click Next button to get a new riff for the selected bars and repeat to hear another 5) you can then use Previous and Next buttons to review the riffs offered 6) when (and if) you find one you like click the Accept button while that riff is active 7) click Close button to dismiss this dialog and your new riff should be present in the selected bars even if that track was frozen I find it sometimes helpful to solo the track before I do this so I am only hearing the desired track while auditioning riffs. Hope that helps!
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1) freeze track and then select some bars on that track
Achieved.
2) press F8 or right click on one of the selected bars and choose Multiriff Never looked at multiriff before, thanks.
3) at top of dialog choose track you wish to regen
Done
4) in bottom right area click Next button to get a new riff for the selected bars and repeat to hear another.
When I do this the section does not loop my two bar loop. I have no access to F10 whilst the pop up window is open. I suppose you have to keep pressing the Play button ovcer and over to audition?
5) you can then use Previous and Next buttons to review the riffs offered
Got it thanks
6) when (and if) you find one you like click the Accept button while that riff is active
Got it thanks
7) click Close button to dismiss this dialog and your new riff should be present in the selected bars even if that track was frozen
I find it sometimes helpful to solo the track before I do this so I am only hearing the desired track while auditioning riffs.
Hope that helps! [/quote]
Yes this has helped thanks. The only issue is the looping, which IMO is nogtoriusly flakey. I am always having trouble with it. TheSp[ace bar function will not loop anything on restart, even F10 can fall out if you date to click something somewhere else. I long for two virtual pins - on the chord sheet, one at the beginning of the loop and one at the end that forever stay put, until de-clicked.
Anyways I now have something! Thank you both.
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The only issue is the looping, which IMO is nogtoriusly flakey. I am always having trouble with it. TheSp[ace bar function will not loop anything on restart, even F10 can fall out if you date to click something somewhere else. I long for two virtual pins - on the chord sheet, one at the beginning of the loop and one at the end that forever stay put, until de-clicked.
Anyways I now have something! Thank you both.
Z I've given up on hoping BIAB will ever follow standards or work logically and consistently! I just find the quickest way to get tracks and then move them to my DAW. I don't have enough years left to waste them on this software! If the tracks weren't so damn good I'd have left long ago. But they are and I'm still here! 
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The only issue is the looping, which IMO is nogtoriusly flakey. I am always having trouble with it. TheSp[ace bar function will not loop anything on restart, even F10 can fall out if you date to click something somewhere else. I long for two virtual pins - on the chord sheet, one at the beginning of the loop and one at the end that forever stay put, until de-clicked.
Anyways I now have something! Thank you both.
Z I've given up on hoping BIAB will ever follow standards or work logically and consistently! I just find the quickest way to get tracks and then move them to my DAW. I don't have enough years left to waste them on this software! If the tracks weren't so damn good I'd have left long ago. But they are and I'm still here! Agreed. As a long term user I have found that hardly anything works as expected. I now restrict myself to typing in chords and playback. I run my sounds outside of BIAB, never record using it, never use it with VSTs. Playing Real tracks it is superb though. It's like a Ferrari strapped to a raft of leaky oil drums. Yes it is great. Yes it is terribly flakey, obscure, inconsistent and WIN 95 in design. It's sad.
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ZeroZero. I urge you to find a "way" to watch the video. You wanted to control regeneration(s), that what it shows.
On the design, it was said that PG team is exploring options to update UI / Workflow. There are several pinned threads on the subject in Wishlist. Please take a look. See if anything you want to add to requests.
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