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New, Fun Band-in-a-Box Enhancements from Norton Music

If you liked the Ultimate Pop Rock Fake e-Disk
You'll Love this new Ultimate Rock Pop Fake e-Disk *

One of our most loved Band-in-a-Box collection since the 1990s has been Norton Music's companion e-disk to Hal Leonard's Ultimate Pop Rock Fake Book. The folks at Hal Leonard published a companion book with a similar name, the Ultimate Rock Pop Fake Book. Reversing the Rock and Pop words so they don't supersede the original.

It's a Who's Who of Rock/Pop music. From Elvis Presley, to The Beatles, to Madonna, to Prince, to Taylor Swift, the most important stars of the Rock and Pop music are there.

We've been working hard to interpret the almost 550 songs ala Band-in-a-Box and we're proud of our work.

All this for less than 8¢ per song

Just look at the complete song list and partial artist list here https://www.nortonmusic.com/fake52.html

The best of both worlds: As usual, we've assigned a MIDI style and the BiaB robot should suggest a Real-Tracks style for each song. Assigning MIDI is the only way to give you both choices.

If you don't have the style assigned, no problem, just substitute one if the styles from your Band-in-a-Box collection. Or be adventurous, and reinterpret the song with a different style of music. Check out the free samples in the song list.

It's a Pop/Rock gig in a box!

If you purchase the optional Fake Book, you can load the song, open the book, and play and/or sing along. It's your Rock/Pop gig in a box.

And since they are in Band-in-a-Box .sgu format, you can rearrange them, change the key, pick a new style, and customize them to fit your musical personality.

Windows or Mac - it works on both.

Norton Music has been making Band-in-a-Box improvement products since the beginning, when Band-in-a-Box was written in pre-Windows DOS, Mac was in OS-6 and there was even an edition for the Atari computer. Our products have been recommended by the good folks at PG music, and rather than try to replace anything PG does, we add value to your favorite auto-accomplishment program, Band-in-a-Box. If you have Band-in-a-Box, you need this e-disk.

--- Instant E-Delivery with VISA, Master Card OR PayPal ---

* No they're not physical disks anymore, those days are long gone. They are now instant gratification downloads. I cut the price of my disks up to $5 each and no longer have to charge shipping and handling. And you not only save money, but get your software right away in an environmentally friendly way.


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Hey Bob,

This looks like fun. However, when I went to the checkout page, I got this:

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Hmm, Try putting the s after http (https://). I pay 10 dollars a month to be secure, and the shopping cart is secure. Sometimes, for some reason unknown to me, the Internet indexes an old page before I added the s to the http.

Or if you are using a bookmark, edit your bookmark to add the pesky little S.

If that doesn't work, let me know, and I'll call tech help at the web host.

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Hmm, Try putting the s after http (https://). I pay 10 dollars a month to be secure, and the shopping cart is secure. Sometimes, for some reason unknown to me, the Internet indexes an old page before I added the s to the http.

Or if you are using a bookmark, edit your bookmark to add the pesky little S.

If that doesn't work, let me know, and I'll call tech help at the web host.

Thanks.
It's your link. I tried multiple browsers.

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Very interesting and confusing, since you are the first and only one to report a problem.

I placed an order for the new e-disk myself, and it went just fine.

Let me try to replicate it.

Would you be so kind as to give me step by step what got you to that screen?

I'd like to get to the bottom of this.

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Clicking on either of those fields gor me the message I already posted.

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I finally clicked onto this and was able to get to a shopping cart.


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On checking out, I got this. No, I do not have problems with PayPal


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Thanks. Early gig today, I'll check into it.


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Aaaaarrrrggggghhhh.

Mike,

The tech at the shopping cart company insists nothing is wrong, and points out the scores of orders I'm getting with no problems. So he says it must be something wrong with your system or your security settings.

Not being a tech, I have no idea if he is confused and blowing me off, correct, or something in between.

So I have a plan. (1) Let me know in a PM or direct e-mail what you want to order, (2) I'll figure out the price and add an extra discount for your trouble (3) PayPal me the funds and (4) I'll send the software as an e-mail attachment.

Meanwhile, I'll continue to investigate the problem, starting with my webhost, which I don't think would be the source, but it won't hurt to give that a try.


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I wonder if Mike is using a VPN, and what happens if the VPN is then disconnected?


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Originally Posted by AudioTrack
I wonder if Mike is using a VPN, and what happens if the VPN is then disconnected?

Nope, no VPN.


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Webhost says, "Not our problem"

Shopping cart says, "Customer's problem, perhaps security settings too high"

I say, "I'm not a tech, I rely on you folks to help me."

Is anyone else having the same problem?


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Originally Posted by Notes Norton
Webhost says, "Not our problem"

Shopping cart says, "Customer's problem, perhaps security settings too high"

I say, "I'm not a tech, I rely on you folks to help me."

Is anyone else having the same problem?
Webhost is wrong. It absolutely IS your problem and I can prove it. How I got around it with pictures etc. when I get back from church later.

Till then…


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I'm inclined to agree. There are multiple events where something works for some and not for everyone, and the provider, instead of investigating in detail, takes the easy path. "It works for others so the problem must be elsewhere."
Ask me how I know...


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I've been in the middle before, where the webhost blames the shopping cart and the shopping cart blames the web host, and me, not a tech person, stuck in the middle. It's frustrating.


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Strange, clicking on either of these 2 buttons gives me this message.
Is it possible that the link associated with the store buttons is the problem ?

If I click "Send" I am taken to your store page with no problem, it seems like the link to be taken to the store page isn't secure, even though the store page itself is secure.

maybe the links on your Nortonmusic site need to be updated (?), IDK In'm not a web developer but that might be worth looking into.
Just a guess though.

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Originally Posted by JayO
Strange, clicking on either of these 2 buttons gives me this message.
Is it possible that the link associated with the store buttons is the problem ?

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It is one of the problems. There are others.

Originally Posted by Notes Norton
I've been in the middle before, where the webhost blames the shopping cart and the shopping cart blames the web host, and me, not a tech person, stuck in the middle. It's frustrating.

Well... You are the merchant.

Did your webmaster build the page? If so, then there's the problem. If not, then there are things that he/she doesn't know. "Everything's fine" was the wrong answer in both cases.

Other wrong answers have been given including the nonsense about Security settings. My ISP is AT&T, I don't use a VPN; The four browsers I tried on my Mac have always been set to Default as is Safari on my iPad.

I was in another town on Saturday so I thought I would try again. My iPad uses cellular, not WiFi. Rather than taking screen shots, these pics were shot on my iPhone. Anyway, clicking on any of the fields circled in red gives the insecure connection message—yes, as Jay noted, one can click through and go to the cart but I won't except when testing. Clicking on the field circled in green does take you to the Cart.

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Ok, here's another problem. Once I initiated payment, I got the "PayPal processing" error as before. I tried three times before it went through. The normal cause is that the back end of your e-commerce site took too long and it timed out. What I saw was a message that it had failed, not that my system had caused it. Again, something for your webmaster to fix.

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Download and installation went smoothly enough. I was a little surprised that when I got the book from Amazon, it weighed 4 pounds and that the typefaces used are so small but I'll make it work.

Otherwise,I'm looking forward to having fun with this. If this works well for me, I'll be ordering more.


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Thank you all for the information - even though it's not happy news.

The investigation goes on and on and on and on.

So I'm guessing it might be the website code or the web host. I'll put my next efforts there.

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It's looking like it might be the webmaster (how embarrassing), me. I have my project set for today.

I have some pesky little S's at the end of http's that never got changed. Never entered my mind (I said I wasn't a techie). I built many parts of my website before I got the secure server, and there are a lot of missing pesky little s.

I'm grateful for your help.

I'll let you know when I'm done (there are a lot of pages), and I hope you won't mind trying again.

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OK, the web host and the shopping cart company were correct (I think) saying it wasn't their problem. owe them an apology.

It seems like the pesky little S at the end of the http was due to the dumb S webmaster (that would be me). I'm a better musician than I am an HTML coder.

Thank you Mike and others for pointing out the problem and giving me enough clues to find a fault (or hundreds of the same one repeated).

Going by The Troubleshooters Assumption: There is only one thing wrong - and if that didn't fix it, there is still only one other thing wrong.

I guess I assumed that since I paid for the secure server, all would just point there, whether the S was on the end or not. Or else, I just didn't think about that at all. Hopefully, lesson learned. laugh

The dumb S troubleshooter is self-taught from a book "HTML In Plain English" back in the 1990s, and does all his work on the Notepad text editor. Well, he found hundreds of http: statements that are now https: and is hoping he didn't miss one.

Since I can't recreate the problem over here, will you please try again and let me know?

Thanks.

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It's often the little things, right? All the clicks go where they should now.

Until I place another order, I won't know if the PayPal connection is still an issue. It did work for me eventually but that was after many tries. If you haven't double-checked syntax and those links, now's the time. Outdated links can time out. I have placed many a support call over the years to them beginning with, "Ok, you changed things AGAIN without telling anyone!"


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Thanks again for your help, and your order.

Being self-taught at anything is an adventure. But then, so is formal education. wink

About half my orders are via PayPal, and I've had a decent response for this release. I'm wondering how many orders I may have lost do to the S issue, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. I'll just move onward.

The learning never stops, until it does.


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@Notes Norton

On a related note, when I opened "Basin Street Blues.SGU" from Fake Disk #44 (Jazz Real Book Vol. 2), BiaB suggested a RealTracks/RealDrums style to replace the MIDI style you had chosen. It didn't include a Brass track, but was a definite enhancement sound-wise. Rather than overwrite the original version, I appended " (M)" to indicate that it used a MIDI style, and saved the updated version with " (R)" appended to the filename to indicate a RealTracks style. I suspect that I will run into this from time to time due to new styles added by PG Music after you created the original .SGU.

I already owned the 6 Jazz Real Book volumes, in addition to the Rock Pop Fake Book I bought to supplement your new Fake Disk #52. Your Fake Disks turned a useful resource into an outstanding one. Rather than having to create the SGU's myself to build backing tracks to practice bass with, I can just use yours and mute the bass track. THANKS!

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I always assign MIDI styles. Why? If I assign a MIDI style, BiaB will suggest a Real Style. However, if I assign a Real Style, BiaB will NOT suggest a MIDI.

Assigning a MIDI style is the only way to get a suggestion for both the MIDI and Real folks.

At one time, at his request, I sent all my styles to Peter Gannon so he would have help knowing what Real Style to use.

The only one that is different is the first Real Book. I did that with all Real styles, and the MIDI people felt left out. So I took their suggestions seriously, and went back to MIDI while letting BiaB suggest an appropriate Real style.

I suggest that you try both, and when using MIDI styles, don't substitute the Real Drums, leave them MIDI. Some songs will sound better with a Real Style, others with MIDI. Because MIDI is more editable, sone songs cannot be done well with Real. If you don't listen to both, you won't know which is better for you.

Saving one with an M or an R suffix is a great idea. Thanks. Do you mind if I steal that one? laugh

Plus, you can change the style to anything you like. My brother-in-law, a fine trumpet player, plays in the local jazz society. They pulled up the old "Tea For Two" and arranged it as a Perez Prado style cha-cha, played some inventive solos in the middle, and it's a hit.

Back when it was required to play Jimmy Buffett songs in Florida, we did "Volcano" as a Reggae song. The audience likes it.

One nice thing about BiaB is the ability to be creative.

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Wasn’t that in the state constitution? I didn’t know that had been repealed.


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Wasn’t that in the state constitution? I didn’t know that had been repealed.

Funny thing. Since he died, the requests and enthusiasm has diminished quite a bit.

But as far as I know, the law hasn't been repealed, just not enforced as vigorously.


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We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!

In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!

All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.

Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!

We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!

We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!

If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!

Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.

Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!

Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!

We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!

In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!

All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.

Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Windows!

We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!

We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!

If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!

Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.

Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: VST3 Plugin Support

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® now includes support for VST3 plugins, alongside VST and AU. Use them with MIDI or audio tracks for even more creative possibilities in your music production.

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support

Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: Using VST3 Plugins

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