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My reply:
1. I have used BB on over 90 songs and countless demos and never had this buzz problem; but I'm on a PC.
2. Please confirm that you are using 44.1 as you said with 16 bit.
BB likes 44.1/16.
3. What sound interface are you using? or are you using the macs built in sound ??
more details on your work methods re creating a song from concept thru final mix
stereo master would help. this is highly odd.
4. You will have garage Band on your MAC.
Please run a test with it or another music production app to see if you get the buzz
process of elimination.
Happiness
om Thank you. I appreciate the extra thought. 1 Good to know, thank you. 2 I'm confirming 44.1/16 3 I don't need to be using interfaces to get the error. it happens with or without an interface. Regarding completing a song, this error began on day 1, October 2024, after i'd installed and got into playing with my new favourite toy, namely BIAB 2024. 4 No, I don't have GarageBand on any of my Macs, but sound is my living so I do have Reaper, Pro Tools, Ableton Live, Logic, Nuendo, Audacity (none of which 'buzz' with or without an interface). The error/buzz only occurs from within the BIAB app, and no where else, and only drum loops/real tracks - I think. There are a lot of styles to try in the narrowing down.
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my reply.
then assuming you can play audio outside of bb running and assuming in non daw work just playing say a song from a library of songs...
the only conclusions are...
1..a setting in bb or..
(a pic of your audio settings in bb woul be helpfull.)
2..as you say a prob with the loops etc being used...or..
3..by any chance is the pg content your accessing being changed as to bit depth and/or sampling rate.
fyi...i was a reaps user from it coming on the market years ago now and also an early contributor of suggestions...but now as pg's realband has received some interesting upgrades i use rb mainly.
sadly rb is only on pc otherwise i would get a m4 mac mini as well as my pc.
which brings me to a question...when your running reaps on your mac
do you see a line at the top of reaps tracks view showing latency etc etc ? (we get that info on pc.) just curious what info is shown on that reaps top line...and what it says for your mac.
reason being i can compare with my new pc which shows around 4 milliseconds latency. in addition in reaps can you record tracks in the flac format like i can ?? thanks.
happiness.
om
Last edited by justanoldmuso; Yesterday at 10:58 AM.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs(90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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For the frozen file it probably doesn't matter. Thanks for testing safemode.txt - so the problem happens at factory settings.
Do you have an original Band-in-a-Box UltraPAK hard drive, and are you running Band-in-a-Box directly FROM the hard drive?
Or have you copied the program to your internal Mac drive, or another hard drive? Please detail.
One thing I would suggest you do is run the build 806 patch installer again (select the appropriate hard drive) which will fix any permissions problems there might be with those files.... just to be sure, though I'm guessing you have done that already.
Andrew
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LOOP ERROR UPDATE Today I have updated to Mac BIAB 2025, and importantly re-installed everything.... error still there. I spent today noting when the noise or silence occurs, it seems to be only on Styles that use (drum) LOOPs. So I made a short boring video randomly playing Styles. If you watch it you'll see all Styles play fine until I audition a Style that uses 'LOOP'. In Styles that use LOOPs there is silence or a 'buzz' (a fractional sound looped). Then I inspected all of the loops in the video, they play fine outside the BIAB app. The link is live for 24 hours https://wormhole.app/LOP3Xy#wxa-Sa6q85SH2RZynU78Mw
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Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh
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For the frozen file it probably doesn't matter. Thanks for testing safemode.txt - so the problem happens at factory settings.
Do you have an original Band-in-a-Box UltraPAK hard drive, and are you running Band-in-a-Box directly FROM the hard drive?
Or have you copied the program to your internal Mac drive, or another hard drive? Please detail.
One thing I would suggest you do is run the build 806 patch installer again (select the appropriate hard drive) which will fix any permissions problems there might be with those files.... just to be sure, though I'm guessing you have done that already. Thank you. No UltraPak HD (you mean a physical HD from PGMUSIC? no, I don't have that.) It makes no difference where the files are installed, external, internal, the issue is still there. Since October 2024 I've tried 10 different Macs, and 3 different operating systems. It always happens. From today I'm now on BIAB Mac 2025. The issue is still there. Please watch this video, it's live for another 23 hours. https://wormhole.app/LOP3Xy#wxa-Sa6q85SH2RZynU78MwI accept you're not seeing it, so there must be something unique. Can you send me your TEENAGE save, and your preferences, and let's see if it still happens my end, yes? It would really really help, so the person you're replying to can reference what you're replying to, if you used the "quote" option when replying. : ) Lastly, can i try an older Mac BIAB? What's the oldest I can try, are they available to download? I'm on Sonoma across 6 Mac now, the onstage Macs.
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my reply.
then assuming you can play audio outside of bb running and assuming in non daw work just playing say a song from a library of songs...
the only conclusions are...
1..a setting in bb or..
(a pic of your audio settings in bb would be helpful.)
2..as you say a prob with the loops etc being used...or..
3..by any chance is the pg content your accessing being changed as to bit depth and/or sampling rate.
fyi...i was a reaps user from it coming on the market years ago now and also an early contributor of suggestions...but now as pg's realband has received some interesting upgrades i use rb mainly.
sadly rb is only on pc otherwise i would get a m4 mac mini as well as my pc.
which brings me to a question...when your running reaps on your mac
do you see a line at the top of reaps tracks view showing latency etc etc ? (we get that info on pc.) just curious what info is shown on that reaps top line...and what it says for your mac.
reason being i can compare with my new pc which shows around 4 milliseconds latency. in addition in reaps can you record tracks in the flac format like i can ?? thanks.
happiness.
om Thank you. 1 I've already run the app multiple times with the 'safe mode' preferences. So if default settings produce the error, and tbh I don't use the default settings, the error is not being caused by something in the settings - THAT SAID, there are a TON of settings, so it is possible in theory. BUT, if a setting is causing it, I would consider that a bug. 2 yes, something is afoot with my loops and/or the loop script for BIAB Mac 2024/2025 (I've not used BIAB 2023). 3 good question, and I did consider this but again, multiple restarts and clean installs, and triple checking/monitoring i'm running at 44.1Khz don't point to this. Re Reaper, I'll try it tomorrow. I'm in the UK currently, and it's late. : ) thanks again.
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No Xtra.
(ps i'm a brit pomme as the aussies like to say...lol.)
ok heres a shot in the dark.
in bb...
1..set the tempo eg 120....now...
2..is your selected loop way off from this tempo ?
the bb picker (F7) has all the loops tempos...
thus if song tempo is 120 and loop tempo is say 150...
maybe this is the issue ??
myself i go no more than 20 percent below or above the song tempo when selecting a loop.
SO...if song tempo is 120 my bounds are 120 minus 24 as the low for the loop and
120 plus 24 for the high loop when i'm selecting a loop.
sometimes one needs to lower the bound loop values.
just experiment and see if the 'busy bees' go away.
in summary one shouldnt select a loop thats way way outside the song tempo.
happiness.
om
Last edited by justanoldmuso; Yesterday at 05:34 PM.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs(90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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If you simply open one of the wave files into Band-in-a-Box i.e. File | Open, or Audio Import to the audio track, does it play?
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