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Real Tracks won't load (SOLVED) #859021 08/01/25 11:48 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 299 Florida P P Glaser OP Apprentice
OP P Glaser Apprentice P Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 299 Florida	I'm trying to load #1701 & #1702 piano RT's but they won't load into the mixer. #1700 keeps coming up. Anyone else seeing this? Thanks. Last edited by P Glaser; 08/04/25 03:13 PM. Paul BIAB 2025 Intel i7-4790K, Win10 Pro, 16GB Ram 1TB OS, 2TB Audio, 1TB Samples Focusrite Scarlett 16i16 4th Gen Cakewalk Sonar, 64 bit

Re: Real Tracks won't load P Glaser #859022 08/01/25 12:15 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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shlind Journeyman S Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 593	They load fine for me, but only if I have the tempo for the song set to roughly match the tempo for the RT. If tempo is set out of scope RT#1700 is loaded for me as well. BIAB 2026, Studio Pro 8, Song Master Pro, Win11 Home. i7-9700K CPU, 32GB, ESI MAYA44eX, ZOOM UAC-2, Guitar Pro 8, Transcribe, (EZKeys2, EZD3, SD3, EZBass, EZMix3) Amateur: fiddle, guitar, vocal, beginner on bass.

Re: Real Tracks won't load shlind #859025 08/01/25 02:23 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP P Glaser Apprentice P Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 299 Florida	Originally Posted by shlind They load fine for me, but only if I have the tempo for the song set to roughly match the tempo for the RT. If tempo is set out of scope RT#1700 is loaded for me as well. Thanks, I'll try that. Paul BIAB 2025 Intel i7-4790K, Win10 Pro, 16GB Ram 1TB OS, 2TB Audio, 1TB Samples Focusrite Scarlett 16i16 4th Gen Cakewalk Sonar, 64 bit

Re: Real Tracks won't load P Glaser #859033 08/01/25 03:48 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Guitarhacker Veteran Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 10,789 Middlesex, NC	They should load regardless of the tempo. It's just that they can sometimes sound wonky if they are too far from the recommended ideal tempo. You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.com Add nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.

Re: Real Tracks won't load Guitarhacker #859036 08/01/25 04:29 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,892 Wauconda	Originally Posted by Guitarhacker They should load regardless of the tempo. It's just that they can sometimes sound wonky if they are too far from the recommended ideal tempo. there is a setting for this option! BIAB – 2026, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, Motu Audio Express 6x6 - My SoundCloud.

Re: Real Tracks won't load Guitarhacker #859039 08/01/25 06:03 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP P Glaser Apprentice P Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 299 Florida	Originally Posted by Guitarhacker They should load regardless of the tempo. It's just that they can sometimes sound wonky if they are too far from the recommended ideal tempo. Thanks Herb. This is the first time I've seen this issue. Paul BIAB 2025 Intel i7-4790K, Win10 Pro, 16GB Ram 1TB OS, 2TB Audio, 1TB Samples Focusrite Scarlett 16i16 4th Gen Cakewalk Sonar, 64 bit

Re: Real Tracks won't load DrDan #859040 08/01/25 06:03 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP P Glaser Apprentice P Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 299 Florida	Originally Posted by DrDan Originally Posted by Guitarhacker They should load regardless of the tempo. It's just that they can sometimes sound wonky if they are too far from the recommended ideal tempo. there is a setting for this option! Thanks Dan. Paul BIAB 2025 Intel i7-4790K, Win10 Pro, 16GB Ram 1TB OS, 2TB Audio, 1TB Samples Focusrite Scarlett 16i16 4th Gen Cakewalk Sonar, 64 bit

Re: Real Tracks won't load P Glaser #859041 08/01/25 07:02 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Ember - PG Music PG Music Staff Joined: Jun 2017 Posts: 2,992 BC	Glad that someone was able to point out that checkbox for you! There's all kinds of fun settings in the RealTracks Settings dialogue. If you are never sure what a checkbox does, if you put your cursor over the text long enough there's a little hint that pops up and tells you what those checkboxes do. Doing that is a good way to learn all the little nooks and crannies of the program. Sometimes, those messages have some other useful info (like what the tildes mean in this case). Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) text-hint.png (46.23 KB, 145 downloads) Last edited by Ember - PG Music; 08/01/25 07:03 PM. Cheers, Ember

Re: Real Tracks won't load Ember - PG Music #859054 08/02/25 11:16 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,892 Wauconda	Originally Posted by Ember - PG Music Glad that someone was able to point out that checkbox for you! Someone? BIAB – 2026, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, Motu Audio Express 6x6 - My SoundCloud.

Re: Real Tracks won't load Ember - PG Music #859066 08/02/25 06:17 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP P Glaser Apprentice P Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 299 Florida	Originally Posted by Ember - PG Music Glad that someone was able to point out that checkbox for you! There's all kinds of fun settings in the RealTracks Settings dialogue. If you are never sure what a checkbox does, if you put your cursor over the text long enough there's a little hint that pops up and tells you what those checkboxes do. Doing that is a good way to learn all the little nooks and crannies of the program. Sometimes, those messages have some other useful info (like what the tildes mean in this case). That box is checked. The RT's will load if I have the tempo set to match but when I change the tempo back, #1700 replaces the desired RT. Any thoughts? Thanks. Last edited by P Glaser; 08/02/25 06:18 PM. Paul BIAB 2025 Intel i7-4790K, Win10 Pro, 16GB Ram 1TB OS, 2TB Audio, 1TB Samples Focusrite Scarlett 16i16 4th Gen Cakewalk Sonar, 64 bit

Re: Real Tracks won't load P Glaser #859080 08/03/25 05:44 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,892 Wauconda	that sounds right. If you don't want the auto adjust you need to uncheck the box. 1700 is 85bpm, 1701 is the same chops recorded at 110 bpm and 1702 is the same but recorded at 140. If you check the box, BIAB will chose the closest one. If you uncheck the box then you can choose. Pay attention to the ~. It tells you what is happening. Last edited by DrDan; 08/03/25 05:57 AM. BIAB – 2026, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, Motu Audio Express 6x6 - My SoundCloud.

Re: Real Tracks won't load DrDan #859097 08/03/25 12:32 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP P Glaser Apprentice P Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 299 Florida	Originally Posted by DrDan that sounds right. If you don't want the auto adjust you need to uncheck the box. 1700 is 85bpm, 1701 is the same chops recorded at 110 bpm and 1702 is the same but recorded at 140. If you check the box, BIAB will chose the closest one. If you uncheck the box then you can choose. Pay attention to the ~. It tells you what is happening. Ah Haaa! Now that makes sense. I'll try this. Thanks Dan. Last edited by P Glaser; 08/03/25 12:32 PM. Paul BIAB 2025 Intel i7-4790K, Win10 Pro, 16GB Ram 1TB OS, 2TB Audio, 1TB Samples Focusrite Scarlett 16i16 4th Gen Cakewalk Sonar, 64 bit

Re: Real Tracks won't load DrDan #859137 08/04/25 04:15 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 21,069 Melbourne, Australia	I tried years ago to get them to provide a simple legend that explained what the various hieroglyphics meant (tilde, asterisk, caret, underscore, dash etc), but despite my repeated suggestions, it was ignored. I guess that they will just rely on the user base to keep explaining it. A legend would have been so simple and easy to provide. BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.

Re: Real Tracks won't load P Glaser #859145 08/04/25 04:39 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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shlind Journeyman S Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 593	It is called a "User Frendly GUI" Just think how much effort, time and delay this little thing caused, not to mention all users that have had the same issue but never reported it. Add this with all the other issues that easily could have been fixed. BIAB 2026, Studio Pro 8, Song Master Pro, Win11 Home. i7-9700K CPU, 32GB, ESI MAYA44eX, ZOOM UAC-2, Guitar Pro 8, Transcribe, (EZKeys2, EZD3, SD3, EZBass, EZMix3) Amateur: fiddle, guitar, vocal, beginner on bass.

Re: Real Tracks won't load AudioTrack #859160 08/04/25 06:18 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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MarioD Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 24,504 Hamlin NY	Originally Posted by AudioTrack I tried years ago to get them to provide a simple legend that explained what the various hieroglyphics meant (tilde, asterisk, caret, underscore, dash etc), but despite my repeated suggestions, it was ignored. I guess that they will just rely on the user base to keep explaining it. A legend would have been so simple and easy to provide. Maybe someone whom knows all or most of the hieroglyphics could list them in the tips forum. Maybe it could be a living list where others can add their input. Then those of us who don't know them, like me, could print them out. Just a thought. The bumper sticker said "I'm a veterinarian, therefore I can drive like an animal". Suddenly I realized how many proctologists are on the road. 64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware

Re: Real Tracks won't load P Glaser #859163 08/04/25 06:45 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,892 Wauconda	Here is a start. A breakdown of the most commonly used BIAB codes, organized by category: 🎵 Chord Input Codes Standard Chords: C, Cm, C7, Cm7, Cmaj7, Cdim, Caug, C9, C13, etc. Bass Note Slash Chords: C/E, Dm/F (Chord over different bass) Alternate Root: F#, Gb, A#m, etc. Rest: . (Period before chord, e.g., .C means rest on beat) Push: ^ or >, means the chord is pushed early by 8th note (e.g., ^C) Held Chord: C... (held chord over multiple beats) Shots: C^ or C> depending on the version (also see F5 bar settings for shots and holds) Slash Bass with Rest: .C/E (rest then slash chord) Alternate Bars: You can have 2 chords per bar: C,Dm ⏱️ Bar and Part Markers Part Marker: A or B (starts a new section) Substyle Changes: A to B (changes style groove) Time Signature: Use F5 to set per-bar time sigs (e.g., 4/4 to 3/4) Tempo Changes: F5 > Set Tempo for specific bar 🎚️ Bar Settings (via F5 Key) Volume change (each track) Mute/Unmute tracks Change Style at specific bar Tempo Change Time Signature Change Looping Shots/Holds/Pushes 🎼 Chord Suffixes (Style-Recognized) Here are some valid chord suffixes: Code Meaning maj7 Major 7th m7 Minor 7th 7 Dominant 7th dim Diminished aug Augmented sus4 Suspended 4th 6 Sixth 9 Ninth 11 Eleventh 13 Thirteenth m9 Minor Ninth 🎛️ Style Codes Styles end in .STY and may appear as: ZZJAZZ.STY – Jazz style POPBAL.STY – Pop Ballad EV16_8.STY – Even 16ths at 80 bpm Use F5 or StylePicker to change styles mid-song 🔁 Repeats and Endings Repeat Signs: Notation view shows repeats but you must use Song Settings or bar settings to make loops Tag Ending: Song Settings > “Tag Exists” Coda / DS/DC al Fine: Shown in printout but not playback 🎤 Melody/Harmony Codes Add via Melody or Harmony menus No specific "code" in the chord sheet, but editable via settings or plug-ins 🎹 RealTracks / RealDrums Codes Track names include codes like: RT103 – RealTrack 103 RD13 – RealDrum 13 ~ is a RT prefex indicating that the RT has been substituted Accessed via instrument picker or F5 for patch changes 🧰 Special Codes (for Pasting/Importing) If you're pasting a song into BIAB (text input or clipboard), valid chord symbols and bar separators include: \| – Bar line \|\| – Double bar line [C] – Key signature [F4] – Time signature [STYLE=NAME] – Change to a style [TEMPO=XXX] – Set tempo [VOLUME=XX] – Set volume BIAB – 2026, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, Motu Audio Express 6x6 - My SoundCloud.

Re: Real Tracks won't load MarioD #859165 08/04/25 07:00 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 21,069 Melbourne, Australia	Unfortunately, just unfortunately, some parts of the program are still locked into the DOS 8.3 days. Remember them? Those hieroglyphics are part of that. A legend describing them (even though already antiquated by today's standards) would still be better than what we've currently got. Tough talk? Maybe. Necessary talk to help improve the program for both the company and its users? Yes, I think so. I'm actually on the company's side. But some things really need to 'get with the times'. And this is one, for sure. BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.

Re: Real Tracks won't load P Glaser #859198 08/04/25 03:13 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP P Glaser Apprentice P Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 299 Florida	IT WORKED! Thanks everyone! Paul BIAB 2025 Intel i7-4790K, Win10 Pro, 16GB Ram 1TB OS, 2TB Audio, 1TB Samples Focusrite Scarlett 16i16 4th Gen Cakewalk Sonar, 64 bit

Re: Real Tracks won't load DrDan #859231 08/05/25 02:53 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Gordon Scott Veteran Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 2,640 Hampshire, UK	Originally Posted by DrDan 🎛️ Style Codes Styles end in .STY and may appear as: ZZJAZZ.STY – Jazz style POPBAL.STY – Pop Ballad EV16_8.STY – Even 16ths at 80 bpm I've never been wholly confident about style file naming, but I do know that style files prefixed with: an underscore '_' are RealStyles an equals symbol '=' are a mix of RealTracks and MIDI. I believe MultiStyles have a + at the end (before the suffix), i.e. +.STY e.g. style-name: _AGENT+ and file-name: _AGENT+.STY I believe Norton Music uses different prefixes to avoid potential conflicts with PGM naming. Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful. AVL:MXE Linux; Windows 11 BIAB2026 Audiophile, a bunch of other software. Kawai MP6, Ui24R, Focusrite Saffire Pro40 and Scarletts .

Re: Real Tracks won't load P Glaser #859243 08/05/25 06:53 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Guitarhacker Veteran Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 10,789 Middlesex, NC	Hieroglyphics? Now I have to learn to read that language too? You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.com Add nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.

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