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I own Band in a Box 2020 "Ultra pack" version. If I upgrade to the new 2025 "Pro pack" (a lesser version) I guess I will lose the additional content that came with the 2020 "Ultra pack". Is there a way where I can combine the new features of Pro 2025 and keep the extra content of my 2020 Ultra pack install?
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That is correct; you will update the program and not lose any sound content you already have.
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I own Band in a Box 2020 "Ultra pack" version. If I upgrade to the new 2025 "Pro pack" (a lesser version) I guess I will lose the additional content that came with the 2020 "Ultra pack". Is there a way where I can combine the new features of Pro 2025 and keep the extra content of my 2020 Ultra pack install? If it is just the new 2025 "features" you want you can just purchase the 2025 version (no new content but all the new features). I don't see the reason to buy the Pro Pack if you have the prior Ultra pack. Opps, I just checked, looks like that option is no longer available. Nevermind.
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I own Band in a Box 2020 "Ultra pack" version. If I upgrade to the new 2025 "Pro pack" (a lesser version) I guess I will lose the additional content that came with the 2020 "Ultra pack". Is there a way where I can combine the new features of Pro 2025 and keep the extra content of my 2020 Ultra pack install? As long as you install 2025 on top of 2020 it will keep all of the older content. Simple as that! No, you absolutely won't lose anything you've already purchased — it will adapt naturally. I wouldn't put it that way. If you install any 2025 version over the 2020 UltraPAK, then the 2025 version would be able to use the styles and Realtracks from the UltraPAK. If you only install the 2025 Pro version then it will not have the UltraPAK content. You won't lose any content, however it requires steps to keep it. If it is just the new 2025 "features" you want you can just purchase the 2025 version (no new content but all the new features). I don't see the reason to buy the Pro Pack if you have the prior Ultra pack. The "program only" update you're talking about will only work if upgrading from a 2024 version. As Rick has a 2020 version it will not work - however the Pro upgrade will work. The Pro upgrade will also include at least some new content.
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What Simon highlighted is definitely the best way to go about it if you decide you want to simply go with the Pro this time around, but it is good to keep in mind that since your last UltraPAK was 2020 that you will have some gaps in the RealTracks content that has been released from 2021. If you don't want to miss out on the bulk of those RealTracks then the UltraPAK 2025 upgrade is the better option.
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I am assuming that when the 2025 Pro version is installed over the 2020 UltraPak, all RealTracks will be indexed and selectable, and all the ‘missing’ (not purchased) RealTracks, RealDrums and styles will show up in the What Add-ons Do I (Not) Have.
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What Simon highlighted is definitely the best way to go about it if you decide you want to simply go with the Pro this time around, but it is good to keep in mind that since your last UltraPAK was 2020 that you will have some gaps in the RealTracks content that has been released from 2021. If you don't want to miss out on the bulk of those RealTracks then the UltraPAK 2025 upgrade is the better option. Thanks Ember, I neglected to mention that! The 2025 UltraPAK would include over 1000 more RealTracks and Styles, which could be well worth it to you. The Pro version by comparison would include only a small handful of new content. I am assuming that when the 2025 Pro version is installed over the 2020 UltraPak, all RealTracks will be indexed and selectable, and all the ‘missing’ (not purchased) RealTracks, RealDrums and styles will show up in the What Add-ons Do I (Not) Have. That's correct!
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then why call it "pro" when youre fully aware that youre giving some watered down crap? when you upgrade, youre not even really seeing what just got upgraded. they tell you "you just got such and such more real tracks" however they are not dated as recently downloaded. they are dated when they were created by the company. So they just disappear. AND they will likely be NONE of the ones that you wanted in the first place.
No company would call this their "pro" version.
this program has only 2 versions, thusly. Ultra pak or Audio filez.
the rests are always going to be missing a crapload of things, and as PG music keeps adding styles, that YOU DONT have, you will see more and more Demos being played at you that you DONT own.
I purchased the ones where they had vocals, AND GUESS WHAT? Now I dont have that. I ordered a bunch of eazy going slow jazz. Guess what? NOW I dont have that.
tthis program is like its ALWAYS in friggin "demo" mode.
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then why call it "pro" when youre fully aware that youre giving some watered down ... As you'll probably realise, a great many of us have said similar over the years. I presume PGM's thinking is that 'Pro' applies to the software and everything else is add-on styles/sounds. Then it's logical in a way, but I continue to feel that annoying ones customers is not a great business philosophy. One must remember, though, that part of the cost of the add-ons comes from paying the musicians who create the content. And there's a lot of content. Before I first started with PGM products, I found the plethora of packages, combinations, names, prices and option totally confusing. Well, I still do in part. That's also the case with many other music software companies. The obfuscation often makes me feel me like we're being deliberately gaslit by some vendors. In practice, PGM seem generally pretty straight with their customers, though also sometimes seriously frustrating.
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BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Slate VSX, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
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... though there's also the UltraPAK+ and the OmniPAK.
Some of the upper packs include some of the Add-Ons, but my limited patience usually goes before I get to work out which are where and when.
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I purchased the ones where they had vocals, AND GUESS WHAT? Now I dont have that. I ordered a bunch of eazy going slow jazz. Guess what? NOW I dont have that. That shouldn't be the case - if you've purchased ANY previous content, whether from an UltraPAK/Audiophile or à la carte, it will remain usable as long as it's installed. Newer versions of BIAB will never lock you out of content you've purchased. From the sounds of it, the vocals and slow jazz are simply not installed - did you reinstall BB recently? I presume PGM's thinking is that 'Pro' applies to the software and everything else is add-on styles/sounds. I believe that was the idea, but as I wasn't around when it was created I couldn't say for sure. One must remember, though, that part of the cost of the add-ons comes from paying the musicians who create the content. And there's a lot of content. Yep, and as some of our musicians are rather well known, they tend to come with an appropriate price tag. ... though there's also the UltraPAK+ and the OmniPAK.
Some of the upper packs include some of the Add-Ons, but my limited patience usually goes before I get to work out which are where and when. OmniPAK is the only one that includes all of the add-on style PAKs. The UltraPAK+ is exactly the same as the UltraPAK, but the + includes the Songs & Lessons PAK.
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I purchased the ones where they had vocals, AND GUESS WHAT? Now I dont have that. I ordered a bunch of eazy going slow jazz. Guess what? NOW I dont have that. If you are always making sure to install over your existing version—especially if you started off with a larger package type and chose to go with one of the smaller packages—you wouldn't lose anything you had before. If something appears to be missing and you're positive you have that content, then there are several things we can check in order to ensure that what you're supposed to have is still there. If you're having this issue I'd recommend reaching out to support@pgmusic.com so we can go over your account info and purchase history together and see if we can isolate the issue.
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One thing I do is keep the install files for all the ‘extras’ I purchase. If I ever had to reinstall BIAB from scratch, I could duplicate all my content.
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One thing I do is keep the install files for all the ‘extras’ I purchase. If I ever had to reinstall BIAB from scratch, I could duplicate all my content. Yah, I do something really similar with all my important files, but that's a good tip in general, especially when using something that has optional yearly upgrades and add-ons. Not only is a backup always a good idea to have, but it also serves as a sort of quick reference for the names of the content you already own.
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Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe
This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.
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Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®
With your version 2026 for Windows Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
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This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
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- MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
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- Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
- Playable RealTracks Set 5
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Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
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- Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
- RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
- SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!
Video: New User Interface (GUI)
Join Tobin as he takes you on a tour of the new user interface in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®! This modern GUI redesign offers a sleek new look with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, and a smoother workflow. The brand-new side toolbar puts track selection, the MultiPicker Library, and other essential tools right at your fingertips. Plus, our upgraded Multi-View lets you layer multiple windows without overlap, giving you a highly flexible workspace. Many windows—including Tracks, Piano Roll, and more—have been redesigned for improved usability and a cleaner, more intuitive interface, and more!
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Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
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Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
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Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
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