Nothing's Changed

you say nothing's changed, it's all the same
but the same day will never come again
it's been and gone

so there's no going back for us
it's the same way
we no longer seem to get along

i see the river burning bright
just another sign our world's on fire
it seems no way to set it right and too late to turn around
the net is gone, we're dancing on a wire

   it's a hard ground, let's not go tumbling down
   our house of cards, like london bridge, is falling down
   it's a game that takes two to play
   but only one to walk away

little children play, calling names, pointing fingers
but never taking blame when things go wrong

and we act just the same
who's to blame?
it's the same game
we know who's the one to blame it on

maybe it's easier to fight, turn away, and close our eyes

if we both try to set it right before it all comes down
will we lose anything except a little pride?

   [repeat chorus]

you say nothing's changed
it's the same
it's the same
well, maybe that's the thing that's going wrong


Instruments
SynthV (Arama)
SynthV (Felicia 2, Sheena 2)

1842:Synth Pad, PopModernGrooveA-B Ev16 075
3150:Mandola, Background AmericanaFolk16thsAndy ev16 060
~2503:Piano, Acoustic, HeldChords 085
~~487:Piano, Acoustic, Rhythm Jazz Ballad Sw 085
2509:Cello, Background PopEven Ev 120 (1TrackStringQuartet)
2511:Violin, Background PopEvenHigh Ev 120 (1TrackStringQuartet)
2510:Viola, Background PopEven Ev 120 (1TrackStringQuartet)
Bass: Ibanez Gio (me playing)
RealDrums: PopPinkCandyElec^3-a:Snare , b:HardSnareClap
Drum Overlay: UJAM Hot

Effects
Main Buss: Curves AQ (Mix), Lurssen Mastering Console (EDM Warmer), HoRNet Tape (Swiss 15 IPS)
Lead Vocal: UAD LA02A (Ballad Vocal), Greg Wells VoiceCentric (Collar Grab Vocal), Capital Chambers (Vocal Main)
Lead Vocal FX: JS Delay With Tempo (Ping Pong)
Backing Vocal: Greg Wells VoiceCentric (Background), Capital Chambers (Chorus Vox Wide)
Bass: Ghz Vulf Compressor, EZMix 3 (Classic 8x10 Bass Amp)
Guitar: No FX
Piano: No FX
Piano 2: ReaEQ (High Pass), Finisher Micro (Flanger), Finisher Flux (Autopan Heaven)
Drum: Curves AQ
Drum FX: Finisher Dynamo (Backbeater)
Drum Overlay: No FX (using drum's built-in reverb)
Overlay Drum FX: Finisher Dynamo (Backbeater)
Mandola: Sound City Studios (Acoustic Guitar Ambience)
Mandola FX: UFX Delay (Doubling), Raum (Airy)
Synth Pad: Finsher Flux (Stringasm), Valhalla Vintage Verb (Concert Hall)
String Trio: Tape Mello-Fi (Subtle Width), Sound City (Ensemble - Strings)

The Story

Feel free to skip this bit. All comments welcome! smile

This was one of those songs that I didn't think would ever get finished. I'm still rewriting lyrics, and I may change the title as well. But I'm getting ahead of myself.

As usual, I looked through the style demos until I found something that I liked. CLIMB caught my ear - it had a fairly modern drum sound, and very cool mandola. It was also in a minor key, which was something I haven't used much.

I changed up the chords quite a bit. I avoided major 7th chords (although there are a few) and did a couple temporary modulations to try to keep things interesting. There are some neat inversions, and the chorus is in major to contrast with the minor verses.

Well, the mostly minor key verses. The first verse is in A minor, but the second (or maybe it's the prechorus) shifts to A major just because.

I then rendered out a backing track and imported into SynthV to work out a melody. I had purchased a new voice called "Amara", and decided I'd like to feature it on a song, so I used that. She's got a R&B sort of voice, but that's not really in my wheelhouse, or where the song went. But why let that stop me?

I did my typical "outline the chord tones" when working out the melody. But that's a problem with a lot of my melodies - they have lots of skips. So I went back and simplified the melody so there were a lot more repeated notes, which is more typical in pop music.

I went through a lot of ideas for lyrics, but none of them seemed right for this song. The problem with writing the lyrics last for me is that it's a process of trying to figure out who the narrator is, and what they would be talking about. So it's mostly a matter of listening again and again, trying to figure out what words match the mood of the music.

After about a week or more, I finally decided to just power through and write something, no matter how terrible it seemed. That got me the opening lyrics, but they lacked the sort of thing that songwriting instruction text tell you they should have, like images that set the time and place, or something compelling that grabs the interest of the listener.

But at least I had a POV and tone of voice, so yay, progress! I figured that I'd eventually replace those lyrics, but of course I didn't. However, I'm still re-writing them, even as I type this.

The only non-cliche line in the song is probably:

   I see a river burning bright

And that is a reference to the Cuyahoga River catching fire years ago. Because yeah, that makes sense in a song like this, right? wink

I went to RhymeZone looking for something that would rhyme with "fire", and ended up with "high wire". Yeah, it's been used many, many times. The Alan Parsons Project song immediately sprang to mind. But by this point I was ready to to embrace cliches, so after a bit of wordsmithing, the first verse was mostly complete.

It was time to start working on the chorus. But as usual, the melody I'd written didn't sound much like a chorus at all. So I went back to BiaB and changed some chords to make them a bit more pedestrian, and then listened to to songs to get an idea of what a real chorus sounded like.

As I start putting phrases into the chorus, I found I was using nursery rhyme elements - something I've done before. But while I was treading over old ground here, I was also getting desperate to finally get this song done, so I took what I could get. The idea of that and children taunting each other on the playground seemed material enough to fill the second verse.

I finally got to the core of the song when I came up with this lyric while I was - of all things - doing the dishes:

   it's a game / it takes two to play
   but only one / to walk away


With the core idea in place, it was pretty much a matter of just rewriting the first verses into the second verses. Fortunately for me, while getting ideas is painfully slow, rewriting is relatively easy.

At this point I considered: Is there a need for another verse? Structurally, it's rather short. But I'm not sure I've got anything left to say. I toyed around with the idea of putting in a bridge, but laziness struck hard. Instead, I decided to use an modified version of the first verse.

I thought about putting in a short instrumental, and then repeating chorus, before the final tag. I haven't ruled it out.

With the song lyrically complete, I'm faced with a problem: there's no obvious title for the song. That's a big red flag that I should go back and rewrite things. But I'm going to punt on it and maybe revisit it later.

Time for the fun part - harmonies! Staggered counterlines don't really make much sense, so I just duplicated the melody and then dragged the notes to chord tones, adding passing tones where it made sense. Then I did it again and added a top line. Nothing very fancy, so I added some counter lines.

Next, it's time to render out the vocals from SynthV and BiaB, and start mixing in the DAW. I hadn't rendered the mandola to the backing track for SynthV, because I wanted to make sure the vocals would stand by themselves. The mandola sounds really cool, so I'm pretty sure I won't need much on the track.

But the next morning, I decided that the tempo feels a bit rushed, and decide to change it from 90 BPM to 87 BPM. All the tracks are re-rendered in BiaB and SynthV, and I add a bunch more guitars, basses and pianos so I have more to choose from. The guitars are a bit too busy with some of the passing chords, so I removed the passing chords in BiaB and rendered the simplified guitars.

I threw Curves AQ on most of the tracks and let the AI offer up some EQs. Is it better than using a preset? I can't really tell, but I paid money for the plugin, I'm using it. The ping-pong effect is from Reaper, but I used a bunch of UJAM Finisher effects because I'd just bought them.

The ending effect comes from playing with UFX Delay and the Raum reverb.

I wanted to start with a simpler drum part, but couldn't edit the hi-hat out, and a low-pass filter didn't do the trick. The simplest solution was to just automate the drum volume.

My daughter suggested that the harmonies were a bit loud, so I dialed them down lower than I usually do. It made me sad, but she's probably right.

There are a relatively small number of tracks on this song. The string trio is buried behind the synth strings, so it's not even clear it needs to be there at all. The second piano is just to add a bit of shimmer and interest, and sits behind the main piano.

I'll probably go back and re-do the bass, possibly putting in a MIDI bass or just playing it myself.

Like my prior song, I put this one out before it's before it's 100% polished, so there's a good chance I'll be updating the track as time goes on.

Hopefully other people's songwriting processes are faster than this. laugh

Thanks for getting this far! Again, all comments are appreciated.

Edit 1: I replaced the line "Now I'm looking back at us" with "So there's no going back for us" because it was the same line The Indigo Girls used in "Closer to Fine". That's what I get for making a last-minute change to a lyric late at night just before posting the song. blush

Edit 2: I changed the bass and added a drum overlay on the verses. So I guess the song title is no longer accurate. wink I'll should eventually clean up some places where the bass is too busy. Credit to floyd jane for pointing out this needed work!

Edit 3: The mandola is now duplicated up an octave with some FX added to it to give is sparkle. The main piano has a high pass filter on it, and is run through some FX to give it sparkle, too. The guitar was muddying up the mix in the chorus, so I chopped some chords out of it and removed the FX on it. Credit again to floyd jane if it sounds better, otherwise blame me. (These aren't as drastic changes as the prior ones)

Last edited by dcuny; 09/05/25 01:14 PM. Reason: Updated the mandola and piano tracks.

-- David Cuny
My virtual singer development blog

Vocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?