https://soundcloud.com/user-646279677 BiaB 2025 Windows For me there’s no better place in the band than to have one leg in the harmony world and the other in the percussive. Thank you Paul Tutmarc and Leo Fender.
I watched the demo you posted - wow that is fantastic - If it was 1985!
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I'm generally a Roland guy Far as I know the Roland GO:KEYS 3 is their version now, and is extremely affordable.
I haven't played with it much. My Juno-G kinda has the chord feature but is discontinued and not recommended unless the screen replacement has already been done (factory installed screens failed after a number of years but were replaced under warranty with a better one if done within a certain time frame)
Last edited by rharv; 10/10/2503:46 PM.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!
Made it thru half of Rharv's demo. In the opening comments the claim is "...it is so cheap if you don't like it send it back and we will give you something else".. REALLY.
Now I assume both Rharv and Bass Thumber are not punkin me, so this must just be something I don't understand. Maybe its the live playing - I don't do that. I compose and arrange so chord sequences and sound are critical to me. I need a workstation to create, not a portable keyboard with midi sounds (which by the way - do those really sound good to you? So I don't really have any more to say on this topic other than at $385 this may acutally be cheap enough for you to try it out.
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By the way, for what its worth, here is how I work up chord sequences for my music. and by the way, the SL88i can be found for under $500.
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Dan, I kinda agree with you which is why I started with
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I'm generally a Roland guy Far as I know the Roland GO:KEYS 3 is their version now, and is extremely affordable. I haven't played with it much.
I don't have that need much anymore, with computers able to handle it, but that wasn't the question as I understand it. Like I also said, I have no experience with the product because I have no need. You and I can play keys. BassThumper plays bass .. so, ya know, just trying be to be helpful
/thanks for changing your avatar, the previous one felt weird
Last edited by rharv; 10/10/2510:21 PM.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!
I watched the demo you posted - wow that is fantastic - If it was 1985!
Dan, I don't understand the reference to 1985. Are you saying that this keyboard is 1985 technology? I also can't interpret the facial expressions you included.
PS> You're looking quite young and dapper, by chance are you taking a new multi-vitamin these days?
https://soundcloud.com/user-646279677 BiaB 2025 Windows For me there’s no better place in the band than to have one leg in the harmony world and the other in the percussive. Thank you Paul Tutmarc and Leo Fender.
I'm generally a Roland guy Far as I know the Roland GO:KEYS 3 is their version now, and is extremely affordable.
Yes, the price point for this instrument is quite affordable. As a two finger piano player I'm mainly interested in the chord sequencer feature where I can add a melody on top. And thanks for sharing the video, kind of makes me want to take piano lessons . . . on 2nd thought, I'm having too much fun on my bass these days
I'm also somewhat of a Roland guy. I'm happy with their SPD drum pad which is a ton of fun to jam to my favorite songs, it's also a good tool to improve/maintain my sense of rhythm which pays dividends on my bass . . . . all good stuff!
https://soundcloud.com/user-646279677 BiaB 2025 Windows For me there’s no better place in the band than to have one leg in the harmony world and the other in the percussive. Thank you Paul Tutmarc and Leo Fender.
Ha, back in the day we beat the crap out of a TR626 My Juno-DS has a drum pad on it, which is still kinda fun sometimes.
I would note that Dan's image shows that the audio has been muted to avoid a loopback issue. Sometimes tech does more to complicate things than it solves when you just want to play.
As for being a 2 finger keyboard player; that's the beauty of this keyboard. Record on a loop and play one finger at a time if you have to.
Last edited by rharv; 10/11/2507:09 AM.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!
First - the Avatar - I tried for days to change it, but it just would not. Apparently, Chrome does not work with this feature on this website. Prompted by the comments here I opened EDGE and --- Ya, that's the new me. The prior Avitar was a sculpture entitle "Grief". Today is my 50th Wedding Anniversary, October 11, 1975. With that, combined with the 1-year anniversary of my wife's passing, made me feel it was time to move forward. I will likely try some more updated photos in the near future.
BT - Regarding the Roland, I am sure my initial dispersions were due to the fact that I don't play keys LIVE. Which is way this product looked so odd to me at first. But I do maintain that the controlling interface and the sound I was hearing in the demo is old tech indeed. Maybe not '85, but certainly prior to 2000. Certainly, if you want to play live - I would hope there is better sounds available today. And I use the faces available in the forum pretty much totally random and arbitrary - so no deep meaning.
Rharv, you are absolutely correct regarding "...tech making things complicated". Scaler 3 is a perfect example. The company has struggled with this newest release. But this for me is the price I am willing to pay to get the features and sound quality I am looking for. I am afraid if you took away the modern day computer my music would cease to be. I would go totally silent except for what would sound like moaning and groaning coming from my voice.
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By the way, for what its worth, here is how I work up chord sequences for my music. and by the way, the SL88i can be found for under $500.
Thanks for the info. If I'm not mistaken, the SL88i appears to be a MIDI controller? If so, I'm not interested in MIDI at this point on my journey. I require a portable, self-contained keyboard that can jam with others; a replacement for my Korg Krome. And now that I see keyboards available with onboard chord sequencing, that is a must-have.
https://soundcloud.com/user-646279677 BiaB 2025 Windows For me there’s no better place in the band than to have one leg in the harmony world and the other in the percussive. Thank you Paul Tutmarc and Leo Fender.
Yeah, a controller more expensive than what you are actually looking for just seems like a dumb point to make. Every keyboard can be a controller if it has MIDI. Especially if keyboard is not your main thing. Even that 'Go' I was surprised to see how cheap it was. $359 for something that does what I literally spent thousands for years ago seems inviting. And complaining about the sound of it on a YouTube video for a $359 keyboard .. priceless. I'm actually thinking it might be a Christmas list item. Last year I got a golf membership, I'd prefer another keyboard. I played golf about 6 times this year, it was a waste of a lot of money.
Last edited by rharv; 10/11/2511:03 AM.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!
Yeah, a controller more expensive than what you are actually looking for just seems like a dumb point to make.
And complaining about the sound of it on a YouTube video for a $359 keyboard .. priceless.
Hey Rharv, play nice or I woun't play. I have enough grief in my life.
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Now I assume both Rharv and Bass Thumber are not punkin me, so this must just be something I don't understand. Maybe its the live playing - I don't do that. I compose and arrange so chord sequences and sound are critical to me. I need a workstation to create, not a portable keyboard with midi sounds (which by the way - do those really sound good to you? So I don't really have any more to say on this topic other than at $385 this may acutally be cheap enough for you to try it out.
No "punkin" here, assuming I know what that means:) As for live playing, yeah, that's what I do mainly these days, sometimes with friends and mostly just in my studio for fun and recording. For me the thrill of music is jamming along to my favorite songs/playlists or Pandora. Fingers on strings (bass), fingers on keys (keyboard) and hands on sticks (drum pad). I've never tried mouth on trumpet or sax but I'm sure that's fun as well.
I'm somewhere in Quadrant 1.
https://soundcloud.com/user-646279677 BiaB 2025 Windows For me there’s no better place in the band than to have one leg in the harmony world and the other in the percussive. Thank you Paul Tutmarc and Leo Fender.
Yeah, a controller more expensive than what you are actually looking for just seems like a dumb point to make.
And complaining about the sound of it on a YouTube video for a $359 keyboard .. priceless.
Hey Rharv, play nice or I woun't play. I have enough grief in my life.
OK, I apologize. I know you had a rough road lately and if that happened to me, I'd be bitter too. But read the room, man. I'm not usually like that. You know that. Maybe something you said triggered it (?) I admired you for a long while, but as of late you haven't been quite the same.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!
Well here's a preliminary summary table, putting this together was no small task and I need to confirm some of this info. But so far it's looking like Roland has cornered the market for reasonably priced portable keyboards with hands-free chord sequencing.
That said, any of these boards can be described as a software product with a user-interface consisting of knobs, dials, buttons and 61 keys. And when AI becomes included in these instruments the capabilities will surely skyrocket.
https://soundcloud.com/user-646279677 BiaB 2025 Windows For me there’s no better place in the band than to have one leg in the harmony world and the other in the percussive. Thank you Paul Tutmarc and Leo Fender.
Most AI is cloud based because there are zillions of elements that are processed.
.... consuming many megaWatts of power to do so.
There's an awful lot of marketing hype out there. Everything now has to be "A.I. powered" or "A.I. ready"
My old TV was "Ultra HD ready", thought it only ever did 720p.
I could certainly see machine learning doing things like recognising the style of what one's playing and matching, e.g., accompaniment style and swing to it, but I could also see many people turning that off. I don't think one really needs A.I. to do that, though.
Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful. AVL:MXE Linux; Windows 11 BIAB2025 Audiophile, a bunch of other software. Kawai MP6, Ui24R, Focusrite Saffire Pro40 and Scarletts .
I certainly don't mean to derail the thread, but A.I. this, A.I. that, A.I. ready? Wouldn't it be better if we could just think for ourselves? I don't really know where all of this A.I. dependency is leading, but long term I don't think it can be good.
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