Coming in Scaler 3.1 May 14 2025, Scaler 3 Support
... some features confirmed for Scaler 3.1 Include: Main Track Live Sync - Syncs Main track across instances and DAWs Batch User Chord Set Import - Ability to import several XML files at once and choose destination folder Custom VST Folder Paths Play Bar in MIDI Editor Drag and Drop MIDI / Audio files Standalone ASIO Support
Well it has been a difficult launch to say the least. Very similar to BIAB in December each year. But the developers are digging in to address the reported issues. Still can't drop and drag chords between BIAB and Scaler, but Scaler is enhancing this feature in 3.1. And, I can report that midi chords drop and drag between Scaler and the BIAB VST is working. Standalone should have never been release without ASIO, but they will now have that fixed.
Coming in Scaler 3.1 May 14 2025, Scaler 3 Support
... some features confirmed for Scaler 3.1 Include: Main Track Live Sync - Syncs Main track across instances and DAWs Batch User Chord Set Import - Ability to import several XML files at once and choose destination folder Custom VST Folder Paths Play Bar in MIDI Editor Drag and Drop MIDI / Audio files Standalone ASIO Support
Well, it has been a difficult launch to say the least. Very similar to BIAB in December each year. But the developers are digging in to address the reported issues. Still can't drop and drag chords between BIAB and Scaler, but Scaler is enhancing this feature in 3.1. And I can report that midi chords drop and drag between Scaler and the BIAB VST is working. Standalone should have never been release without ASIO, but they will now have that fixed.
Not to mention they took away real-time chord recognition from the main screen. (They told me they may bring it back. I think it belongs on the new keyboard area) I have suggested to PGM that they add it to the top area of their keyboard and make it a panel for more convenient workflow instead of hiding it two clicks deep in the windows menu.
Last edited by jpettit; 04/25/2507:10 AM.
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Jeff, I think what you are missing did reappear in beta 3.0.5 which was released to all. The chord name is now there for any chord you play on the keyboard in real time.
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Is it true you cannot drag chord progressions into BIAB? I cannot seem to get it to work. Seem like a big miss by both companies if true.
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Best I can confirm, you are correct. But it is even a little worse. As of the current beta 1.0.5, S3 can no longer drag and drop the Scaler Chord progression - with Chord Markers, into Reaper. S2 had a feature option called "insert midi markers", which is currently not in S3. But S3 b1.0.6 is due out today!. So Scaler is changing a lot at this time and I am hopeful. So for right now with 1.0.5, while you can drag and drop Scaler Chord progressions into the chord chart of BIAB-VST3, you can not do the same in BIAB. Instead, in BIAB it will treat the chord progression as a midi file so that will be inserted it on whatever individual track you designate, but that does not place the Chords on the chord sheet in BIAB for all the tracks to use. I am afraid it remains a little messy.
The reason I mentioned both companies not paying attention was PGM does not seem to be supporting a common ability in many plug-ins to drop chords. Most Daws now can make this a one step procedure.
PGM should be updating BIAB to see that the file is nothing more than MIDI block chords and then just auto convert the block chords to chord names and add or update at the point of the cursor with no pop up importing a midi file. Same as BIAB plugin.
This is a modern expectation. I guess I need to add it to the UI improvement thread since they’re probably not reading this.
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What’s New in 3.1 Live Sync Sync your Main Track chords and scale across all running Scaler 3 instances. Bass Follow Track New Articulations option: auto-follow the root note of your chord track. Onboard Tutorial A step-by-step overlay greets you on startup—perfect for new users. Clip Extension Easily extend / shorten adjacent clips with a single drag. All Scales on Launch “All Scales” view is now the default at startup. Arrange Page Scrolling & Zoom Free-scroll and pinch-to-zoom for smoother timeline navigation. Select All / Deselect All Single-click “Select All” in the three-dot or right-click menu; click blank space to “Deselect All.” Supporting Documents Updated User Manual and new Multi Channel MIDI Out setup guide for most DAWs
Bug Fixes Lasso Chords crash resolved for affected users Overlapping Chords bug squashed Last-Chord Extension edge cases fixed in Main Track DAW Sync Off Loop unresponsive play/stop behavior corrected Instrument Plugin Recall in Studio One now reliable Playback Progress Bar displays correctly over empty regions Non-Standard and Complex Time Signatures sync behaviour corrected Keys Lock profile no longer cuts off notes MIDI Notes now render properly in Scale White Keys Stuck Notes when playing two bound notes simultaneously—fixed Sketch-to-Main-Track Drag ignores active motions as expected Duplicate Sidebar Controls on drag-and-drop issue resolved Empty Space in Sketch Page no longer appears after reload
It is safe to say that Scaler has had a difficult time of it with the launch of V3. Dramatically new workflow concepts which have taken a program which was initially difficult for many to comprehend to an even more complex level where folks have begun to bail ship. But I admire the development team. They stand behind their concepts and beliefs in the app. Changes continue to come based on user feedback (or is it screamback?).
3.1.1 (Released July 22, 2025) Fixes Strumming no longer slows down or drifts out of time over successive bars Fixed issue where Strumming directions were not accessible Bind now works correctly on detected chords added to Section A Sidebar Motion selector now appears for all Expression types (not just Articulations) Scale list updates in real time during detection Synced instances no longer display the “Disconnect From Live Sync” popup incorrectly Keys Lock (Scale White Keys mode) now sends Mod Wheel data correctly Clicking single notes in Bass or Chord Follow tracks no longer causes stuck visual notes Chord note lengths now display correctly in the MIDI editor for odd time signatures (e.g., 3/4, 5/4, 6/8) MIDI Detection correctly identifies chords even when a note is held across changes MIDI Capture now records Section C internal playback when using DAW Sync + Chord Trigger New sessions now correctly adopt DAW time signatures other than 4/4
Stability Improvements Project corruption issues resolved across various DAWs Improved compatibility with Pro Tools and Digital Performer DAWs Fixed issue where Standalone app crashed on launch. Fixed crash caused by User Presets Crash when using Undo after Modulation > Secondary Scale is fixed
Thanks Dan, I just tried Scalar 3 to seriously write a song progression this week, and I noticed two workflow gaps or areas that need improvements.
1) When you use the "linked chords to MIDI" triggers to record a true rhythmic pattern for the chord. There is no way to get that chord pattern back into Scalar 3. The rhythmic pattern is easily recorded in your DAW, but their "MIDI Capture" only records a MIDI file that cannot be used in Scale 3. This completely null in voids using any of their new master tracks, bass tracks, melody tracks etc. since the real chord progression, you want to use is not easily obtainable and Scalar 3. FR: The master track or working progression his ability to be updated from the link chords directly.
2) Although it has a ton of suggested chords, chord explorations, and modulation chord capabilities, it has no "passing chord" feature. FR: When selecting two chords add an ability to suggest a "passing chord" that moves between chord one and chord two, and a straightforward way to insert that chord.
BTW wouldn't it be cool to see some of these harmization tools native in BIAB?
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Improvements Bass Follow (Arrange Page): Can now be applied as a global motion. Mute Tool: Added mute icon to the Arrange page, making it easier to mute chords and clips (previously only possible via Shift+Click ). Live Sync Optimisation: Improved plugin responsiveness and reduced lag when using Live Sync. Scale Detection: When multiple matches exist, Scaler now prioritises Major/Minor scales (e.g. A Minor over Gb Mixolydian). MIDI Detection: Improved accuracy in distinguishing single notes and chords. Keyboard Navigation: Lists in Section A (Browse) can now be scrolled and selected via up/down arrow keys; added < and > for category navigation. Suggest Chords / Neo-Riemannian: Improved handling of chords without 3rds or 5ths when Minimise Movement is enabled. Help Access: New Help tab in the settings menu links directly to documentation.
Fixes Fretboard View: Correctly retains fretboard display when reopening the window. Installer (Mac): Added prompt recommending a restart after installation. Section A Detection: Now auto-scrolls after 8 chords detected. Play Quantise / Latch: Fixed unexpected behaviour with quantise and latch playback when DAW Sync Off. Track Output: Fixed issue where output was muted after inserting some VST3 audio effects in certain hosts (Mac/Windows). User Chord Sets: Improved import reliability. Added Reveal Location menu option, and clarified folder selection. Velocity Handling: Dragging chords from any section now retains correct default velocity. Individual MIDI notes in the editor now respect default velocity instead of playing at 127. Zoom & Scroll: Closing and reopening Scaler now retains zoom and scroll position. Keys Lock: Fixed issue where notes were cut off unexpectedly. Global Transform Controls: Now update correctly after changes elsewhere. Section B Voicing and Colors Handling: Fixed octave jump and voicing selection issues. Performances: Corrected global and child track performance levels (previously 6dB too low). Right-Click Add to Track: Now sets chord duration to one bar, matching drag-and-drop behaviour. Strummed Sequences: Fixed cases where chords failed to populate. MIDI Output: Track MIDI output now works correctly when VST/VST3 insert FX is added. Sound Selection: Fixed an issue where some internal sounds could not be selected if another sound in the same position was previously chosen. Dragging Multiple Chords: Resolved crash when dragging multiple main track chords. Audio Export: Fixed hang when exporting audio while using multiple instances of third-party instruments. Clip Editing: Improved lasso/select behaviour and reduced clip drop indicator size. Tutorial: Standalone tutorial now opens correctly on first launch. Modal Interchange: Fixed incorrect mode list after reopening Scaler.
Scaler 3.2 Coming Nov 25, 2025 Just a heads up and some ramblings. As i have mentioned Scaler 3 was a significant change in regards to workflow verses prior versions. Unfortunately, so significant that it alienated a lot of users ( me included) who did not fully understand the changes. But with this video just release I now feel I see what is going on....
David shows us how new features are being introduced. With that he gives us a view of his workflow in Scaler 3. Viewing this video, I now understand that the developers have designed Scaler 3 to accomodate their unique and individual workflows in sound production. This answers my long asked question, who is this program designed for?
Fact is, as a current user, I have to admit my workflow in Scaler has always been fully "self designed". Meaning, I don't always really know what to do in this app or when to do it. To defend myself (and others like me), I am involved in all the aspects of my music creation. That means I create, write, produce, perform, engineer, arrange, mix, master and release all my musical offerings. So my problem with Scaler Workflow, since the release of Scaler 3, has been when do I involve Scaler 3 in my process (workflow)?
I still don't have the answer to that question, but I am enjoying the journey that Scaler is taking me on.
Something New coming in the next week or two. I am sworn to secracy so that is all I can say now. Keep an eye out in the Scaler Forum!
Binding chords is a nice way to use the chords in a real fashion, but it blew me away when I found no way to record the performance back into Scaler.
This seemed like a major dead end to the idea of building tracks inside of Scaler.
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Something New coming in the next week or two. I am sworn to secracy so that is all I can say now. Keep an eye out in the Scaler Forum!
Binding chords is a nice way to use the chords in a real fashion, but it blew me away when I found no way to record the performance back into Scaler.
This seemed like a major dead end to the idea of building tracks inside of Scaler.
Sure you can: Its a DAW routing thing. Here are some quick instructions for routing. I can make a quick video if it would help. I work in reaper.
Scaler 3 can output MIDI notes generated by its performance or chord playback. To capture that in your DAW:
✅ Method 1 (works in most DAWs, e.g. Reaper, Studio One, Cubase, etc.)
Load Scaler 3 on a MIDI/Instrument track. Play or trigger chords/patterns inside Scaler. Create another Instrument Track (this will be the instrument you want Scaler to control, e.g., a piano or synth). Route Scaler’s MIDI output → to the second instrument track’s MIDI input. In Reaper: On the Scaler track: click the routing button → Send MIDI → All → Channel 1 to the instrument track. On the instrument track: record-arm and set Record: Output (MIDI). In Cubase: set the input of the second instrument track to Scaler 3. In Logic: use the MIDI FX Wrapper (Scaler in MIDI FX slot) and record on the instrument track.
Opps, I have the most current beta for the next version 3.2 due to come out shortly. I am not sure that this feature is present in prior versions. You will have to try.
OK, sorry again. I see now you indicated that Scaler will not record the performances and chords "in Scaler". You are likely correct with that. But recording everything in the DAW is a nice option..
You misunderstood me. It’s not a matter of recording bound scaler chords in your DAW. That’s an easy thing to do.
It’s a matter of recording the performance back into the master track in Scaler. On the phone right now so I don’t know if the exact term they use for it in the third tab in Scaler.
It seems like it should be a no-brainer button, to select inside of Scaler. I requested this feature formally on their website last year, but have not heard anything about it since.
To me, It was a big dead end.
Last edited by jpettit; 10/18/2511:09 AM.
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No problem, but do you also think it’s it’s strange that they spent a year rewriting scaler three to Support multiple track ideas and yet they don’t let you record your bound chords which are triggered and sourced by scaler itself.
To me, it was the most obvious step to support.
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