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I'm a member of a a music agency called Taxi.com. They have a listing that calls for songs with lyrics about "WINNING" and "VICTORY" . I have written such a song and would like to submit it to Taxi. Their client wants songs with lyric themes in the general wheelhouse of the following references: "Started From the Bottom" by Drake "Unstoppable" by Sia "Eye Of The Tiger" by Survivor "Survivor" by Destiny's Child "The Winner Takes It All" by ABBA The above songs have a variety of different styles, but lyrically, they are all about winning. I would like to know what other BIAB users think would be the best style to employ for my song before I send my masterpiece to a singer for recording the vocals. I have BIAB 2024 but am prepared to upgrade to BIAB 2025 if that's necessary to make my song sound as commercial as possible. Thanks for your interest. Andrew Scott
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Have you listened to some of the samples on this page? Perhaps something from RealTracks Set 431 : Funk & R&B Horns might work, but without knowing your lyrics, one can only guess. Go through some of the online demo's there to see if you find something suitable.
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Go to the style picker and in the upper right hand window type in a song similar to what you are looking for as a style. This will give you style options that may match your song.
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Hey Andrew,
Part of me wonders if "their client" might just be one clever prompt away from being satisfied. 😉
Have you ever considered a slightly... speedier route? Imagine just heading over to SUNO (or similar AI music generator) and dropping in a detailed prompt like: 'Uplifting, anthemic pop song about overcoming challenges and achieving victory, with a powerful female vocal, blending the epic feel of Sia's "Unstoppable" and Destiny's Child's "Survivor" with the determined grit of "Eye of the Tiger," and a touch of modern hip-hop for a "started from the bottom" vibe. Make it sound commercially ready.'
Just a thought for our brave new world of instant gratification! Super keen to hear how your song turns out, however you choose to craft it. Good luck with Taxi!
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The TAXI requests for songs generally come with fairly short deadlines.
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Part of me wonders if "their client" might just be one clever prompt away from being satisfied. 😉 No need to wonder! I plugged your suggestion in and got this stirring anthem: https://suno.com/song/8fb16b7b-f177-493d-922b-26b42f47a432Awesome lyrics, like: rise we vowand With every heartbeat, courage fills the nightMy favorite: Shining like the stars, we're a beacon of light
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Onward we march, guided by the light.Because not only does Suno not notice it's already used "light", but the guiding light is... us? 
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Thanks for all your comments, people. I appreciate the time you took to respond to my concern. Regarding the Suno track, https://suno.com/song/8fb16b7b-f177-493d-922b-26b42f47a432 it's amazing in terms of the feel and production. That's the kind of output I want to achieve. I wanted to go to Suno, or somesuch, and say, give me a track in this genre, using the attached melody, lyrics and chord symbols. But it doesn't seem to work that way. I love my own melody, lyrics and chord symbols, and just need a quick, professional production of the same, without hiring real musicians!!
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Thanks for all your comments, people...I love my own melody, lyrics and chord symbols, and just need a quick, professional production of the same, without hiring real musicians!! Hi, Andrew. If it were me, I'd go to StylePicker and filter for the tempo, feel and time sigature I was interested in, AND a keyword like "epic" that will often be found in some of the bigger RealStyle descriptions. These StylePicker selections will often include some of the energetic characteristics found in the songs you list that I recognize. It will take some poking around to find what you're looking for though. Good luck!
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Wouldn’t it be funny if all submitters to Taxi lodged the same AI generated song! I know it wouldn’t happen, but it’s fun to imagine. Andrew
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I wanted to go to Suno, or somesuch, and say, give me a track in this genre, using the attached melody, lyrics and chord symbols.
But it doesn't seem to work that way. Actually, it does work that way. There's a "cover" feature that will do that. You can use BiaB to create the backing (something it does really well), sing the vocals, and load that into Suno to have it create a "cover", telling Suno how you want to it produced. Several users on the forum have done exactly that - created a song using BiaB, and then had Suno create a "cover". That said, you've got the issue of not having the individual stems if the customer asks for them. And if they want a modified version of the song, it'll be hard to create. Plus, the audio quality of the track may be problematic, but you might be able to use something like OpenVino SuperResolution (free in Audacity) to upscale the resolution. it's amazing in terms of the feel and production. If I were to look in BiaB, I could find something like Piano, Acoustic, Rhythm PopUpliftPulsing Ev16 120 that might be useful for the keyboard. And maybe PopPromiseEv16 for the drums. But most of the production is the vocals. There are various ways you could get vocals (synthetic, hire a singer, etc.), but what do you do then? Even if you had the raw materials, turning them into a powerful track isn't trivial. If you lack the ability to create that kind of production, there's no magic way to get those skills in a short time. All said, while there are shortcuts available, those shortcuts are available to everyone else. So the part that you add had better be much, much better than your competition.
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Here's a couple of observations from another TAXI member. That song you created with SUNO..... throw it away. Don't even think about submitting it. Regarding the recommendations to use SUNO or some other AI to create your song. DON'T even consider that. Just don't. Nothing will get you banned quicker in the sync world currently. If you read the listing you will see the warning NOT to use any AI. No sync publishers are going to sign anything that is created by AI. The first issue is, it can't be copyright protected. Too many legal grey areas and encumbrances. Many, if not all the sync publishers and libraries are adamantly opposed to the use of ANY AI other than using it to master the song. One of the publishers I'm signed with has even banned the use of Synth V vocals and doesn't want anything that was posted on Soundcloud or sent by WeTransfer since both of those are allowing AI models to train on the content those sites handle. Violation of the extensive AI prohibition with that publisher can result in the termination of the writing agreement and removal of the catalog from the publishers overall catalog. They are serious about that so don't even think about going with AI for sync. As per the listing on the TAXI site: Your Submissions can NOT be commercially released on Spotify, Apple Music, etc., OR be encumbered by ANY other publishing, licensing, administration, and/or exploitation deals (whether non-exclusive or exclusive), including publishing/licensing agreements with CD Baby Pro, TuneCore, etc. Do NOT submit any material with unauthorized samples of any other artists’ music, sounds, or any other form of media. Broadcast Quality is needed.
AI ALERT: This Company can't accept or sign music that has been lyrically or melodically composed using generative AI, nor will they accept backing tracks, full instrumental tracks, or vocal performances created with AI. Regarding using BB styles.... Yes, but it depends. Listen to the examples they gave you for targeting the listing. BB styles tend to be very "beige" compared to the examples they provided. You'll really need to think out of the box and create a unique version of the song. Don't just grab a style, slap on some (paid) vocals, and think it's going to pass the screeners. It might, but chances are, it won't. That's not to say you can't use BB styles right out of the box and get a "forward", I have done that, but, it's not likely for this style/listing. The one song on the examples list....Eye of the Tiger.... listen to how it starts. BB will never give you something like that. BUT.... if you can provide that kind of "enhancement" to the BB style..... that would be fine. Give it a shot..... you never know. Go to the Taxi forum. I'm not sure which subforum it's in, but there's an entire section of the forum dedicated to folks asking questions about submitting, and often provide a link to their song they are planning to submit. Listen and read the feedback. Consider submitting your song just as the instrumental bed to see what people say. Just tell them it's the musical bed, you're recording the vocals, and want some feedback on what you have. See what feedback you get. That's my advice for what it's worth. BTW: Taxi isn't a music agency. It's a trusted listings and screening service. They get listings from the industry and make them available to members. The members can submit music to those listings where they are screened to eliminate the musical slag. This ensures that the producers and end users get targeted, quality, usable, music for the project, hence making them a trusted source of music and listings that are valuable to both musicians and producers.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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"Epic" eh?
That's a brilliant idea!
I'll give that a try because my song is about somone who makes their country proud by winning.
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Ha ha.
Andrew Dee, I notice that you're from Adelaide, South Australia.
So am I.
I live in Aldgate, between Stirling and Bridgewater.
Where are you?
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Herb, you wrote that one of your publishers doesnt want anything “sent by WeTransfer since both of those are allowing AI models to train on the content those sites handle”
Yikes.
WeTransfer has been the way the recording studio I work in most (in Woodstock NY) has sent me premixed and mixed tracks for two decades! That’s one way i never considered my music could be pilfered (since there are already enough other ways). Do you happen to know when that policy started?
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Guitarhacker, That song you created with SUNO..... throw it away. Don't even think about submitting it. I didn't create the song with SUNO; another forum member did. And I wouldn't consider asking AI to generate a melody or lyrics, because that would deprive me of the artistic satisfaction of creating my own music. Far less likely am I to submit any AI generated songs to Taxi. Which leads me to an interesting point. How can we tell if a recording has been generated by AI? I was hoping that SUNO or similar AI would give me a professional sounding backing to my song. You have warned against that. Again, how could anyone tell? Thanks for your lengthy post and wise advice.
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dcuny But most of the production is the vocals. There are various ways you could get vocals (synthetic, hire a singer, etc.), but what do you do then? Even if you had the raw materials, turning them into a powerful track isn't trivial. If you lack the ability to create that kind of production, there's no magic way to get those skills in a short time.
All said, while there are shortcuts available, those shortcuts are available to everyone else. So the part that you add had better be much, much better than your competition. Indeed, well said, dcuny. I do lack the ability to create a high quality production. And so do the few freelancers I've hired on Freelancer.com and Upwork.com. BTW, I went to your site https://synsinger.wordpress.com/.It was all geek to me. At first it seemed to be coding to generate AI vocals. A closer look indicated more likely it was something to do with programming a bot to interpret voice commands....
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Herb, you wrote that one of your publishers doesnt want anything “sent by WeTransfer since both of those are allowing AI models to train on the content those sites handle”
Yikes.
WeTransfer has been the way the recording studio I work in most (in Woodstock NY) has sent me premixed and mixed tracks for two decades! That’s one way i never considered my music could be pilfered (since there are already enough other ways). Do you happen to know when that policy started? As far as when the WT policy started, I'll admit I don't know. SoundCloud has done the same thing announcing in their user agreement that you, by default, agree to allow them to allow AI to use your SC tracks to train AI. My publisher is meticulous about avoiding the mere appearance that AI is involved in anything in his catalog either from the front end or even the reverse. He adopted that policy in the spring of this year. A notice was sent with the new writing agreement with a note to read carefully the new section and expansion for the use of AI or anything connected to AI that allows content to be used for AI training. It had to be signed before he would sign anything new or plug anything from your existing catalog in his library.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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I've been too far out of the loop. Had no idea AI was becoming a music-making controversy. Now I see there's even a how-to video by PG Music on using AI, along with a slew of other videos on the topic.
Thanks for the topic.
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BTW, I went to your site https://synsinger.wordpress.com/.It was all geek to me. At first it seemed to be coding to generate AI vocals. A closer look indicated more likely it was something to do with programming a bot to interpret voice commands.... Actually, the first guess was correct - it was an attempt to build a usable singing voice synthesizer. I went through a lot of iterations trying a bunch of different technologies. Most of them required marking up audio so that phonemes could be identified, and one of my last projects was creating a phoneme identifier to do that tedious work. The project is on hold, as using neural networks is a far more successful approach. Even I wouldn't use my project, as there are now very good vocal synthesis applications available.
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Scott H. Olson O my yes, the music industry is moving at high speed compared to only a few years ago. Guitarhacker The challenge for me now is how to create submittable songs that sound as good as AI, but don't actually contain AI. You and other contributors to this post have sparked the idea in my mind of how to do it. I upload my amateurish demo track to SUNO, ask it to create a few cover versions in different styles, then post my favorite version to Upwork or Freelancer.com and ask for someone with way more production skills than me to come up with something identical - not using AI. Then I submit that version of the song to Taxi. Of course how do I know that the freelancer hasn't used AI in their version of the track AI? Meanwhile, here's my song, that I plan to submit to Taxi for the listing in the first thread of this post. Which version(s) do you think contain(s) the AI? https://masterpiecemusic.org/temp/You-Made-Us-So-Proud-Version-A.mp3https://masterpiecemusic.org/temp/You-Made-Us-So-Proud-Version-B.mp3https://masterpiecemusic.org/temp/You-Made-Us-So-Proud-Version-C.mp3
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Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
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