I am afraid that Scaler 3 has been an enigma to me since it launched. That somewhat explains all the changes which keep coming. The only reason I continue to battle with it, is because it is the price I am willing to pay in my attempt to understand music at this level. Kind of like BIAB, we put up with a lot just to do what it does. So I try not to complain about ether of this music apps (well not too much).
No problem, but do you also think it’s it’s strange that they spent a year rewriting scaler three to Support multiple track ideas and yet they don’t let you record your bound chords which are triggered and sourced by scaler itself.
To me, it was the most obvious step to support.
I think this may be closer to what you are looking for? Or is it just getting more convoluted - have to admit my eyes get a little glazed over with these demos! I have not yet tried this wordflow. All recording is in Scaler. No routing in the DAW required.
Thanks Dan but that is not it either. Don't feel bad about being confused, their videos are often too long and complicated. If you are beta testing for them, please give them this feedback directly. Their videos need to be a short video on how to do X. The video is only about how to do X and doesn't get sidetracked showing off other features.
All those examples are ways of getting different MIDI out of Scaler. The term I was looking for earlier was the "Arranger tab" in the "Main track". The missing functionality is a button or mode in the Arranger tab where the "Main track (in Scaler)" records your "bounded chords" performance. Why? This allows you to build arrangements and grooves in scalar then export them.
"DAW in a DAW" Yes, there are many plugins (including BIAB plugins), that allow you to record or recreate multitrack MIDI or audio in the plugin that can be played In Sync with the DAW or drug to the DAW to consolidate.
Studio One (latest version), Win 11 23H2 , i9 -10940X 3.3 GHz, 32GB Mem, a 4K 40" monitor, PreSonus Studio Live III Console as interface/controller. secondarily test on Reaper, Cakewalk, and S1 on Surface Pro 3 Win 10 (latest versions).
Thanks for clarifcation Jeff. I got a bit confused (??). Turns out the video I posted immediately above was~ 5 months ago. So NOT the new beta stuff. v. 3.2 will be published early Nov 2025. I am not to speak about v3.2. Nor am I to speak about the new app to be release Oct 22, 2025. Safe to say the developers remain busy. At least it is not boring.
I guess this should have been it own thread, but since we started hinting at it here,
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Hey DrDan, any reports of problems with Scaler Detector disappearing from My Products page?
I got an email from Scaler saying as a Scaler 3 owner I get a free copy of Scaler Detector.
I followed the link in the email and saw both Scaler 3 and Scaler Detector in my Products page.
I downloaded the latest Scaler and the new Scaler Detector from my Products page.
I installed the new Scaler and then installed Scaler Detector.
I launched Scaler Detector and it wants me to enter my serial number and activate Scaler Detector.
So I returned to my Products page on the Scaler website but now Scaler Detector is missing from the My Products page so I don't have the serial number! And I never received any email from you confirming my copy of Scaler Detector.
I did not receive a serial number for the Scaler Detector either in my email. However the serial number was right underneath the Scaler serial number in My Products page. I did have something weird happen to me though as it says you can have up too 5 activations of Scaler Detect and it has somehow used two of them even though I have only installed it on one machine.
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No problem, but do you also think it’s it’s strange that they spent a year rewriting scaler three to Support multiple track ideas and yet they don’t let you record your bound chords which are triggered and sourced by scaler itself.
To me, it was the most obvious step to support.
Jeff, "User Track Recording" in 3.2. [Refer to 11:37 in the video] . Does this meet you needs?
No problem, but do you also think it’s it’s strange that they spent a year rewriting scaler three to Support multiple track ideas and yet they don’t let you record your bound chords which are triggered and sourced by scaler itself.
To me, it was the most obvious step to support.
Jeff, "User Track Recording" in 3.2. [Refer to 11:37 in the video] . Does this meet you needs?
Thanks Dan. Yes it is the first step. Now we need the ability to swap the user chords a master track. Not since I have been looking for a way to perform the master tracks especially in terms of timing.
Last edited by jpettit; 11/12/2509:02 AM.
Studio One (latest version), Win 11 23H2 , i9 -10940X 3.3 GHz, 32GB Mem, a 4K 40" monitor, PreSonus Studio Live III Console as interface/controller. secondarily test on Reaper, Cakewalk, and S1 on Surface Pro 3 Win 10 (latest versions).
No problem, but do you also think it’s it’s strange that they spent a year rewriting scaler three to Support multiple track ideas and yet they don’t let you record your bound chords which are triggered and sourced by scaler itself.
To me, it was the most obvious step to support.
Jeff, "User Track Recording" in 3.2. [Refer to 11:37 in the video] . Does this meet you needs?
Thanks Dan. Yes it is the first step. Now we need the ability to swap the user chords a master track. Not since I have been looking for a way to perform the master tracks especially in terms of timing.
I had to reinstall Scaler 3 it seems it did not like the first install of the new version and I am not sure why but it is working now.
Last edited by Brian Hughes; 11/12/2501:33 PM. Reason: fixed
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Brain I just got home and had a chance to test it on Win 11. Creating a new song and just testing 3.2 in Studio 7.2.3 everything is working fine. I did have a few background errors when scanning for plugins They completed the install. In the previous version I was having occasional crashes with the Scaler audio. So far nothing out of the ordinary. An existing song or did you start a new song for testing? When it crashes and you restart studio one does it create a crash report?
Studio One (latest version), Win 11 23H2 , i9 -10940X 3.3 GHz, 32GB Mem, a 4K 40" monitor, PreSonus Studio Live III Console as interface/controller. secondarily test on Reaper, Cakewalk, and S1 on Surface Pro 3 Win 10 (latest versions).
Brain I just got home and had a chance to test it on Win 11. Creating a new song and just testing 3.2 in Studio 7.2.3 everything is working fine. I did have a few background errors when scanning for plugins They completed the install. In the previous version I was having occasional crashes with the Scaler audio. So far nothing out of the ordinary. An existing song or did you start a new song for testing? When it crashes and you restart studio one does it create a crash report?
Hi Jeff, after installing 3.2 I ran Studio One Pro 7 and started a new song then dragged Scaler over to a new track and it went straight to the desktop crashed. I did create a crash report but did not submit it. After playing around I noticed the date for the VST3 file was not todays date so I reinstalled Scaler again and that cleared it all up. The stand alone Scaler program worked fine it was just with the VST3 plugin I was having issues but it is all good now.
BIAB 2026 Ultrapack- Studio One Pro 7 Windows 11, Mac Mini M4 with Logic Pro 11, Melodyne Studio, Luna Pro
Thanks Dan. Yes it is the first step. Now we need the ability to swap the user chords a master track. Not since I have been looking for a way to perform the master tracks especially in terms of timing.
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