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“Suno Won. Here’s What That Means.” #870486 14 hours ago Off-Topic
Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 2,724 Gulf Of Mexico As Of Late Planobilly OP Veteran
OP Planobilly Veteran Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 2,724 Gulf Of Mexico As Of Late	A lot of folks on here already know this, but some people still don’t want to say it out loud: Suno won the race. Period. That’s the headline. They’re the first AI music company to make legit deals with major labels. They beat the lawsuits. They’re getting licensed. And they’re moving AI music out of the “wild west” and into the actual music business. Like it or hate it, AI music isn’t going away. It’s going to be part of the ecosystem, it’s going to be legal, and it’s going to be monetized. That’s not an opinion — that’s where the industry is already heading. And here’s one of the uncomfortable parts: This is already changing things in Nashville. Used to be, you’d hire a studio and a crew of players to cut a demo. Now people are using Suno to get a full demo for basically nothing. Publishers don’t care how it was made — they just care whether the song works. That means some demo studios and session musicians are getting pushed out. Not because anyone “hates musicians,” but because the economics changed overnight. I’m not cheering it, I’m not trashing it. I’m just telling you what’s happening. More later. Cheers, Billy “Amazing! I’ll be working with Jaco Pastorius, Charlie Parker, Art Tatum, and Buddy Rich, and you’re telling me it’s not that great of a gig? “Well…” Saint Peter, hesitated, “God’s got this girlfriend who thinks she can sing…”

Re: “Suno Won. Here’s What That Means.” Planobilly #870489 14 hours ago Off-Topic
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Guitarhacker Veteran Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 10,627 Middlesex, NC	And..... the word is out, quietly, of course, that some of the top artists in all genres are using it to assist with writing and composing. Of course, no one is going to admit publicly to that. Which now, of course, makes it even harder for unknown writers to even get a foot in the door. Oh yeah, the shift is already happening in the demo studio business and with those companies that write custom songs for individuals. I was a singer/songwriter for one of those companies for a while, and got a number of nice jobs. AI was just getting started but the requests and jobs dropped off to nothing within a few months as AI started to garner attention and folks could do their own custom song by typing in the key points they wanted covered.... and for free or almost free, vs what the the custom song service was charging . Song services, demo studios, session players, and more are finding it harder to get work and make a living from music that was once lucrative. Vinyl and tape got replaced by CD's. CD's got replaced by digital downloads which were quickly replaced by streaming. As Dylan said.... the times they are a changing. You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.com Add nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.

Re: “Suno Won. Here’s What That Means.” Planobilly #870495 13 hours ago Off-Topic
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DC Ron Veteran Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 3,130	Yep. Also the topic of Rick Beato's latest rant post. DC Ron BiaB Audiophile Presonus Studio One ASUS I9-12900K DAW, 32 GB RAM Presonus Faderport 16 Too many guitars (is that a thing?)

Re: “Suno Won. Here’s What That Means.” Planobilly #870540 8 hours ago Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 15,767 GA USA Janice & Bud Veteran
Janice & Bud Veteran Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 15,767 GA USA	Well I'm 80 and there's more than enough good ole human stuff to last me out. Every major and many minor artists of all the multiple genres I've listened to since the 50's have vast catalogs of great music on Spotify and YouTube. Oops I just peeped out of our music bubble and saw this post ... sorry, I will shut up and retire. Before exiting, whoopee they say, I'll mention that I do have a lot of empathy for the folks so negatively affected by this. And I'll further mention that affected music folks will pale in comparison to what's on the horizon. Bud Our albums and singles are on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music, YouTube Music, Pandora and more. If interested search on Janice Merritt. Thanks! Our Videos are here on our website.

Re: “Suno Won. Here’s What That Means.” Planobilly #870559 6 hours ago Off-Topic
Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 2,724 Gulf Of Mexico As Of Late Planobilly OP Veteran
OP Planobilly Veteran Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 2,724 Gulf Of Mexico As Of Late	Yes, Bud, it sucks, but it is what it is. I am 79, only one year behind you, so I get what you say. None of these things affects me in any real way. Yes, I sort of know what Suno is, but I never used it. Not to say I would not, or I would use it. I am way deep into AI, and Suno is child's play compared to the insanity I am involved in with AI. I just got back from Europe. I got to play live just like you and I did when we were kids. Most fun I have had in a good while. I feel empathy for anyone who gets displaced by technology. There are worse things...life goes on. I assume there may be a few aboriginals living in tree tops in remote places north of Australia, wearing only one item that I want define here. So... there are those who cannot change with the technology, those who choose not to, and people like me who are on the other far end of the spectrum. None of that is right or wrong, good or bad. In fact, in my less-than-educated mind, there is no good or bad, just cause and effect. Cheers, Billy Last edited by Planobilly; 6 hours ago. “Amazing! I’ll be working with Jaco Pastorius, Charlie Parker, Art Tatum, and Buddy Rich, and you’re telling me it’s not that great of a gig? “Well…” Saint Peter, hesitated, “God’s got this girlfriend who thinks she can sing…”

Re: “Suno Won. Here’s What That Means.” Planobilly #870563 5 hours ago Off-Topic
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MarioD Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 23,874 Hamlin NY	I'm getting a chuckle reading these threads. It brought back memories of the discussions about BiaB replacing real musicians. When DJs and DWI laws curtailed bars, dance halls, and other places from hiring bands only those whom used BiaB or other backing track programs where working musicians. I believe the same thing will happen with AI. Adapt it and use it as a tool and keep on playing. I'm sure the pros will. Just my 2 cents. It takes courage for a man to admit his wife was wrong. 64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware

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