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Sound-wise this is such a BEAUTIFUL song - I think it's the most beautiful song I've ever heard on this forum - it's almost a shame that it's a sad one! I'm stunned that you can get such perfect AI vocals which vary inflection and sound so pure and real when most that I hear sound flat and bland - though Suno is far superior to SynthV.
"After much discussion and consideration, I've come to the conclusion that it's not good for the future of this forum to post songs where most of the tracks were created with AI."
There's no doubt at all that Suno produces top quality modern studio sound, but I agree with your conclusion. This forum is for demonstrating BiaB's capabilities, but I've seen so many Suno posts of late that if not to some degree checked it could end up being predominantly a Suno forum. I'm 'unluckily lucky' that I don't have enough disk space on my PC to download Suno - plus I'm against using any programme which requires continuous fees - plus even though I know that I'd get much more professional results also using Suno I don't want to end up thinking, "Yes, that's great, but it's now only 10% my work." I see my BiaB music as a weak parallel to composers such as Morricone. Such composers mostly don't play any of the instruments themselves, but use other musicians, so my works are my own compositions starting with an original idea, then I audition sampled musicians and select the samples I want to use, the only downside is that I can't tell a soloist to change the way they're playing. But any work is my composition, my arrangement/orchestration and my mix - it's unique and no-one can reproduce exactly what I've created - but although Suno is very tempting I'd feel that if I used it I'd be handing creative power over to a machine. Thanks, Chay ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/images/icons/default/thumbs_up.gif) I've always been a fan of sad songs with beautiful melodies, which is probably why I do that a lot. BTW, it takes a lot of effort to make vocals sound as if they didn't take a lot of effort  Suno, Synthesizer V, real singers (unless you find a REALLY good one), this applies to all singers.
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This is a beautiful song. Incredible vocal. I must also say very cool lyric and backtrack. Well done Thank you for your nice feedback, Scott, especially about the lyrics. Much appreciated
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Hi Brain,
You've always impressed me with your kind of songs. I'm not a huge fan of AI vocals, but your performances are truly high quality!
I find some songs more emotional than others, but they're always interesting! I think I've immediately pinned your "AI music" to my browser so I can enjoy it more in the meantime.
Then I heard this beautiful song! I wanted to comment on it, but suddenly had to. And then I couldn't find it anymore and forgot the title. Now I can, on the forum! Like I said, it's a beautiful, emotional song. Not a hit, I think, but very beautiful nonetheless.
Well, I can't find any more compliments at the moment, so you'll have to make do with this. I won't complain that you don't give my songs many compliments. That's my fault, I guess. I should have experimented more with AI, but unfortunately, that's not my thing...
Bye,
Hans Thank you very much, Hans, for your really nice compliments. I really appreciate it For anyone wondering about Hans' last two sentences: We talked about it, and it was a misunderstanding that was mainly my fault.
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Hi, B.D. Very pretty song. The quiet approach is very effective in keeping my attention. Top marks on everything here. Style: PNOFLOW.STY (the piano's gone, though) That's half a song right there!  Thanks, David. I gladly take "top mark" My piano piece from which I took the main motif is 3:54 minutes long, so actually an entire piano-song is gone. But the clean guitar arpeggios work SO much better, and if it's best for a song to let things go, I let 'em go.
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Well.... I'll say two things.
1. I wholeheartedly agree with Pat Marr. 100% spot on.
2. This is an exquisite mix. Superbly done.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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Wow! What a terrific production!! Totally enjoyed it..
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Hi Brian, what a very beautiful, well-constructed song! Loved the AI lead and background vocals, and the dramatic synth swells. The production and mix sounds wonderful. Bravo! Thanks a lot, Bob BTW (just because this is often confused): The BG vocals are created using Synthesizer V, which uses AI technology to blend words and phonemes and stuff (something that BIAB should have for its RealTracks), but is not the same as the vocals from Suno et al. You still have to enter every note and every syllable by hand to get the vocals.
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Wow! Starts beautifully with whispering voice and the lyrics paint a cold-hearted image of home. I was waiting for the wall of heavy guitars and metal drums to kick in but for some strange reason they never showed up, that must be a personal hell  So, the song relies heavily on both lyrics and the vocalist. And that's where the song really excels. This might be the first time I have heard your touch in Suno vocals, excellent control of the voice. Enjoyable chorus melody just shows her ABBA-esque loveliness. "The horizon bends inward/As if the world has given up" & "Guilt drips through the ceiling/Pooling in corners I cannot reach" - excellent poetry, very dark and deep from the house of horror The guitar sounds like a ticking clock, but with direction. The sparse use of BIAB instruments just highlights how well you have chosen them to fit your vision. The quieter bridge and then some added dynamics in the end lifts up from the river of sleep. And I like the open ending, leaves uncomfortable feeling. I can feel the time and effort used and frustration felt while making this song and I truly admire how your hard work has produced another masterpiece. You are the big producer of sad songs and I'm the happy consumer of them Janne Thanks for listening and for taking the time to write such a long review, Janne. Highly appreciated! The next sad song is already in the works
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The sad lyric is strong especially this:
“The keys of the piano sound different now
Their notes bend under the weight of my pain
The clock hands move, but without direction
As if time itself refuses to go on without you”
Excellent band … you and the session guys.
“No power-vocals, just a fragile girl who regrets.”
Power vocals would have, in our opinion, sucked the soul and feeling right out.
What you’ve done with AI vocal is, as always, so good and the dynamics are very effective.
Perhaps the best we've heard.
Great mix and soundstage on the monitors.
Mrs. Inspiration did her magic for you!
J&B Thanks for listening and for your really nice feedback, J&B, especially about the lyrics. Mucho appreciated
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Brian. Very nice. Very emotional. Nice vocal although I'm not sure how I feel about AI singers yet. Very good mix.
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Beautiful and heart breaking. The synth voice sound emotionally authentic. Nicely done. Thank you for your kind comment, Scott. Much appreciated
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Hi BDT,
This is spectacular in every possible way. I really, really love your arrangement and its production. You sure know how to get the absolute most out instrumentation, edits, dials and sliders. And your writing! Wow! These lyrics and this melody are first class. You are certainly a musician who radiates musicianship in all that you do.
These vocals sounded human to me and were a hand-in-glove fit with the mood of the song. Perfect!
--Noel Thank you very much for your _really_ nice comment, Noel. I'll hang it on the wall next to your other lovely comments so my wife can see it
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Hey B.D.,
Very cool song here man. Some real pop magic going on.
Nice work on everything! Super mix.
Happy Holidays, sir!
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Enchanting, evocative, extraordinary. A thoroughly captivating example of composition and songwriting. Thank you for your really nice comment, Brian! Much appreciated
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Well.... I'll say two things.
1. I wholeheartedly agree with Pat Marr. 100% spot on.
2. This is an exquisite mix. Superbly done. Thank you for taking the time to listen and comment, Herb. As always, mucho appreciated
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Wow! What a terrific production!! Totally enjoyed it.. Thank you, Scott. Glad you enjoyed it
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B.D.Thomas,
First of all, you've done a super job putting this together and ending up with a perfect sounding track!
As for those who have a problem with forum members posting material with limited BIAB content, they should accept the fact that BIAB is a musical tool that can play a major or minor role in getting what we hear in our heads into a tangible form! On several occasions I have posted songs with maybe 1 realtrack involved and played the rest of it myself and possibly added a third-party loop of some kind!
As for the use of AI in the production for me the same logic applies as written above! While I personally have no desire to use it, I certainly understand that some of us feel that the material deserves the best possible tools available to get the desired sound!
You always post excellent work and this is another example of that!
Take care, TB
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Brian. Very nice. Very emotional. Nice vocal although I'm not sure how I feel about AI singers yet. Very good mix. Thank you, Paul And doubly glad that you mention "emotional", even though (as I suspect) you're not a big fan of AI-generated voices. But to achieve that, a ton of manual automation (mainly volume and EQ) was involved
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Hey B.D.,
Very cool song here man. Some real pop magic going on.
Nice work on everything! Super mix.
Happy Holidays, sir! Thank you, David, and all the best for 2026
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B.D.Thomas,
First of all, you've done a super job putting this together and ending up with a perfect sounding track!
As for those who have a problem with forum members posting material with limited BIAB content, they should accept the fact that BIAB is a musical tool that can play a major or minor role in getting what we hear in our heads into a tangible form! On several occasions I have posted songs with maybe 1 realtrack involved and played the rest of it myself and possibly added a third-party loop of some kind!
As for the use of AI in the production for me the same logic applies as written above! While I personally have no desire to use it, I certainly understand that some of us feel that the material deserves the best possible tools available to get the desired sound!
You always post excellent work and this is another example of that!
Take care, TB Thank you, Torrey, for listening and for your really kind words. And I completely agree with you: whatever a song needs or deserves is right!
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