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Just question to PG in BIAB 2026 about this menu for default MIDI SYNTH.
Clearly a scan will add the DXi synths (not many left after all these years) and VST2 VSTi synths but why is there no way to ADD a default VST3 synth to THIS menu? Especially now that for last two or so releases of BIAB it supports VST3 plugins.
Thanks.
Larry
PS - yes I know I can insert VST3 VSTi's individually in the mixer plugin window just interested in the default MIDI options menu
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Hi Larry,
My understanding is the VST MIDI Synth option will be used to select polyphonic, multi-timbral and GM/GM2 complaint. Do you know of any VST3 synths that meet those requirments?
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Jim - I use the Steinberg Halion Sonic VST3 as my alternate to the TTS-1 DXi synth (which currently does not work, but understand will in an upcoming build).
I think the question is more of simplicity for selecting the synth. When you select a default synth, the only things in the list are available VSTi (VST2) or OS-appropriate DXi (e.g. 64-bit) synths.
To choose a VST3 synth as the default, you need to make sure that the "Default Synth" slot is visible either in the mixer of the tracks window, right click on the first of four VST selections, and then click "Choose VST3 Plugin" from the popup menu. From there, you get another menu to choose VST3 only synths.
I have the same concern. BIAB already knows what DXi, VST2, and VST3 synths and plugins you have scanned for; why can't it just list it in the initial list (and indicate what kind it is next to it, as many other audio programs do).
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Like John said, Halion Sonic VST3, as well as my Montage M VST3 GM mode (the Yamaha Montage M, mine's an M 7, series of synths gives you the complete Montage M synth soundsets as a VST3 synth plugin - which, when coupled with the HW synth gives me overkill of 32 channels plus all that extra polyphony.
John - glad you also noticed the issue with 64-bit TTS-1 - I had to run both BIAB 2025 and 2026 (renaming the folders back and forth) to confirm it works in 2025. In 2026 TTS-1 either 1) comes up, shows notes being played in the poly count in the right-hand TTS-1 window, but there is no sound forthcoming, or 2) TTS-1 comes up and immediately 2026 crashes to the desktop when I hit play. BTW PG does say they are working this issue.
Actually, I called up a few other VSTi synths in 2026 and got the same issue (crash to desktop as soon as I hit play) but then using 2025 with the same plugin, same song, same everything (it's on the same drive, in the same computer, using the same ASIO HW audio I/O, etc.) but zero issues- no crashes to desktop. (I'm still looking at logs and other things to see if it IS ME somehow).
Larry
PS: I screwed up the display on my regular Montage 7 (dumb accident) and while waiting for parts to replace my touch screen, I do all my own maintenance, I just bought a Montage M 7 - so now I have essentially 3 Montages: the original 7, the M7 and now the VSTi of the M - LOL, plus all my other HW synths and most commercial plugins.
PPS - I know folks wanted a "modern" interface and a lot here seem to like it now (although what they'll whine about now only He knows), but for me, with 35 years (BIAB DOS V2 '90) of using BIAB, all that mouse muscle memory is now gone! I hate having to relearn where stuff is and hunt it down. Yes, I'm old and one of those 2A "get off my lawn" guys.
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Larry and John,
Thank you both for the additional details. Now Larrys original post makes much more sense.
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