Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
User Showcase
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Buford Offline OP
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
...

User Showcase
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 613
Journeyman
Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 613
Bob,

That turned out great, nice job. Really nice tone on the steel guitar.
It doesn't get any more country than that!

Greg

User Showcase
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Buford Offline OP
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Hey Greg...

Thanks man. Just wanted to let everyone hear how this came out. The steel player is Steve Hinson, a well-known Nashville sideman. PGM did well to get him to play steel for them on RTs. Excellent choice. Actually I'm probably going to have a local steel player create a new original track for this song and we may put it on a new album of original "old time country" we're working on titled "Smokey Bars and Steel Guitars." Stay tuned.

How's things in GJ?


Thanks for listening,
Bob

User Showcase
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,075
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,075
Bob,

you nailed it! Nothing but praise for this one!

User Showcase
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 12,672
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 12,672
This is great, Hawgly! I loved it. Great old-school country.


John

Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 2x2TB, 1x4TB SSD
Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 2x1.5TB, 2x2TB, 1x4TB SATA

BB2025/UMC404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/MixBus/Notion/Finale/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK

http://www.sus4chord.com
User Showcase
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Buford Offline OP
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
John and Pat...

Thanks guys. Glad you enjoyed it.

Onward and upward
Bob

User Showcase
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 378
Journeyman
Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 378
I really like this track Bob. You did a heck of a nice job on it.

The new form though, is tripping me up just a bit. I had some time tonight and rather than just write what I mean, I put on my producer hat and worked out what I think might be a better form to consider. Listen to it- let it wash over ya for a bit. Either way though, this is one heck of a great tune. Very enjoyable! And I hope you don't mind that I took the leap with this. It's your song- I called it your song. I have or want absolutely no inclusion of rights to anything about the song, be it audio or lyric arrangement. Let this serve as a published declaration. I write that disclaimer because the power of audio editing can be quite a scary thing. But I mean it only to be an audible cut for an example.

I'm editing this and taking out the link until you say whether you're ok with me posting the audio Bob.

Dan

Last edited by Shockwave199; 10/05/10 09:08 PM.
User Showcase
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Buford Offline OP
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Hey Dan...

Your work is always top notch and your input is always welcomed. I'm honored that you took some time to think about this and actually create a new form for the song.

The original song was too short, only a little over two minutes. Basically VERSE, CHORUS, VERSE, CHORUS and out. The new form was VERSE, VERSE, CHORUS, (instrumental)VERSE, VERSE, CHORUS and out. We added the instrumental verse, and a vocal verse, resulting in a full minute increase in song length to about 3:30. So very straight forward and simple form. So I'm kinda confused about what you said was tripping you up. Anyway, your recreation was the same up through the instrumental VERSE, and then you created a 6 line final CHORUS using the original final CHORUS with two lines from the new VERSE in the middle of it. Is this what you intended? It seems "unbalanced" now compared to the first part of the song thru the instrumental. I know you know what the hell your doing, I think I might not be seeing it right. I'll do some more listening. And once again I'm really pleased you thought enough of the project to bother with it.

You da man,
Bob

User Showcase
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 378
Journeyman
Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 378
HAHA! I guess I'll post it again. You must have missed my edit where I took it down. I started feeling weird about doing that.

Anyway yes- very little changed. I did only this-

Added cymbals and a kick drum in the intro

After the instrumental, I went to the bridge, then to the last new verse and cut in what came from the end of the songs lyrics. Of course, lyrically it may not be exactly right since cutting it together, but this is the form I'm hearing. Either way it works and I think you hit this one just great Bob.

Here's that link if you want to listen more.

http://www.songramp.com/mod/mps/listenrm.php?Download=56902

Dan

User Showcase
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 23,214
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 23,214
It’s all been said.

A professional vocal, backing tracks and mix. You have a fantastic voice. You should be on the Grand Ol’ Opera!

Great song!


Whenever I get something stuck in the back of my throat, I dislodge it by drinking a beer.
It's called the Heineken Maneuver.

64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
User Showcase
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Buford Offline OP
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Quote:

It’s all been said.

A professional vocal, backing tracks and mix. You have a fantastic voice. You should be on the Grand Ol’ Opera!

Great song!




Hey Mario...thanks so much. Glad you enjoyed it. I have too many teeth to be an Opry star. LOL But thanks for the vote of confidence.

Liddle-ol-lady-who!

Bob

User Showcase
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 589
T
Journeyman
Offline
Journeyman
T
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 589
Ive listened to both cuts and I have to say the input by you shockwave seems quite good and I couldnt fault the balance of the song using the bridge after the instrumental break. Even though the intro was just kick drum and cymbals for me it worked quite well and introduced the start of the song much better.Anyway thats the way I see it and hope thats ok.Thanks Frankie


AMD Athlon 7550 dual core
processor 2.51 ghz
1 87 gb ram
windows 7 Ultimate
yamaha rev 500 effects
tacam DP-24 DAW
Samson Resolv NF monitors
Yamaha PSR-620 Keyboard
Fender semi accoustic guitar
User Showcase
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,199
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,199
Hi Bob,
I really like the sound you get with this song.
Very crisp (I don't know how to describe it in musical terms but it isn't insipid or weak)
I for one would like to learn how you do that (although I know a home recording will have it's limitations as opposed to a studio)
I agree with everyone that this is a very good country song.

Keep em' comin'

Best regards
Michee


Windows 11 64 bit, Biab 2024 1111, Realband 2024
i7 Desktop Computer 16Gb Memory

User Showcase
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Buford Offline OP
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Quote:

Hi Bob,
I really like the sound you get with this song.
Very crisp (I don't know how to describe it in musical terms but it isn't insipid or weak)
I for one would like to learn how you do that (although I know a home recording will have it's limitations as opposed to a studio)
I agree with everyone that this is a very good country song.

Keep em' comin'

Best regards
Michee





Michee...this song WAS done on a home recording system. The BIAB tracks, which is everything except the vocal, was created on a Dell laptop running Reaper ($40). The key, to me anyway, is a good mic and the tenacity to keep recording until you get as close to the perfect take as possible before beginning to mix and master. The mic I used for vocals was a Rode NTK, about $500 at Musicians Friend. I did TEN vocal takes of the song and took the best performance of each line of the lyric and cut and pasted them to get as close as possible to a perfect take. The vocal was recorded with Sonar Producer using a Mackie Onyx firewire mixer as an audio interface (about $900). Perhaps because I know what "commercial studio" recordings sound like as compared to "home studio" recordings it's easier to create a similar outcome. I really believe it's totally possible to create pro quality music on a home system given the gear that's available these days. I wouldn't hesitate to use BIAB and a home system to create a full CD project for sale to the public. Things have gotten that good for we singer/songwriter types. If you have any specific questions about our recording process let me know. There are no big secrets here.

Thanks for listening,
Bob

User Showcase
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Buford Offline OP
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Dan and Frankie...

While I normally welcome recommendations and comments, you guys are missing the point completely. This song was meant as a recreation of classic country musical compositions of the day back in the early '50s. And it meets that goal quite well. Apparently PGM spent a lot of time analyzing the sound of "classic country" tunes when creating the style used for this song. Particularly, notice the use of NON-PEDAL steel guitar as opposed to pedal steel used in much later country styles. Before I wrote this song I went back and listened to over 40 of Hank's songs and analyzed the song structure and the "language" used in creating the lyrics. This music was SIMPLE. The instrumentation was SIMPLE. The language was SIMPLE (and coloquial). The lyrical phrases were trite, unsophisticated, and overused to be sure...but NOT for the time in which they were written. The song forms were predictable and the use of a sophisticated BRIDGE which we are so used to seeing in modern country music was practically non-existent. The "chorus" of this song as I've written it actually incorporates as much of a "bridge" as was used in that era, namely the use of the 2 chord, D in this case. Two perfect examples of what I'm talking about is Hank's "Your Cheatin' Heart" and "I Can't Help It If I'm Still In Love With You."

So even though it's very tempting to want to "update" this old style of music using a more modern structure, etc.,that was not my intention here. Actually, I'm completely capable of writing using modern structure styles, and have presented numerous examples on this forum. But once again that wasn't the goal here. So all that being said...why not just enjoy the song for what it is, and consider that not every project presented on the User Forum is soliciting a critique...and I mean that in a good way.

Bob

User Showcase
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 589
T
Journeyman
Offline
Journeyman
T
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 589
Mmmm I got the message if its just for listening and not giving a critique then thats fine with me but that would include whether I liked your song or not and with that stand point I wont input one way or another in the future OK.Just a thought most people who put up songs do it I believe to get a response. If you are only accepting those who "just enjoy the song for what it is" then so be it.Frankie


AMD Athlon 7550 dual core
processor 2.51 ghz
1 87 gb ram
windows 7 Ultimate
yamaha rev 500 effects
tacam DP-24 DAW
Samson Resolv NF monitors
Yamaha PSR-620 Keyboard
Fender semi accoustic guitar
User Showcase
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 378
Journeyman
Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 378
Hi Bob,

Am I the Dan you're referring to? I didn't mean to ruffle any feathers. In fact, I took your cue saying you were happy that I took an interest. I'll take the song down. I'm not sure what you mean about a modern bridge or structure compared to anything else. All I felt was that coming out of the solo, maybe going to the bridge would work well. That's not modern compared to anything else. It's just a choice. I think you have an absolutely wonderful song. But I felt that it got just a little drawn out coming out of the solo to another verse, then to a bridge, then to the final chorus. I understand studying the older songs. That's a good thing. But then you have to balance that with the song that's before you, and how it's unfolding. Being into producing as well, I think about everything when it comes to an overall production and simply flip things around to see if it's working the best it can. That's not modern- that's servicing the song. But you're right too. Once a song is posted, it becomes a drag to have to field criticism all the time. Been there. When the writer says it done, it's done. I'm probably the culprit with all this. I'm used to a different kind of forum where writers go back and forth about things. I think from now on here, I'm just gonna hold my tongue and say nice song, or not comment at all.

So Bob- nice song!

Dan

User Showcase
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Buford Offline OP
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Frankie and Dan, you old culprit ...no feathers ruffled here. Seriously. I was just explaining my methodology. Although, Dan, you're right about criticism after-the-fact being a drag...and sort of meaningless. To me, the User Showcase isn't necessarily a forum for unsolicited critical analysis, although some folks actually ASK for input. And like you, I have other resources for professional critique, like TAXI.com, where I'm a member. Believe me those guys KNOW how to tear up a song, but their critiques have to be requested. So it's just as you said...we all have our ways of doing things. And though I haven't been here long, I've been registered since '03, it appears that unsolicited critical analysis is sort of assumed here. Personally, I don't offer advice and alternatives to anyone who's not asking for it. Other folks do. That's their option. No biggie. If I don't particularly like someone's work, I don't comment at all. I think everyone's work is valid within the framework of their abilities and experience. But I'll say this, anyone offering me a critique can expect to have their "critique critiqued" if I think it's warranted. It's a two-way street. So, Frankie, I don't expect to only hear the "positive" comments, but if I don't agree with what's said, I'm totally competent and willing to take issue with it.

BTW...as we all know after years of dealing with email, it's very difficult to determine "body language" when one is reading a message. We have to rely on this or this . My messages are often tongue-in-cheek and my written attempts at humor and irony are sometimes mistaken for "ruffled feathers" when it's really nothing of the sort.

Don't you just love that we have such lively and spirited interaction here? It's so...stimulating!

So now maybe I'M the culprit.

Later,
Bob

User Showcase
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 378
Journeyman
Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 378
Taxi, yes. I was member some four years ago. Too much bread for a middle man critiquing. They never told me anything I don't already know about my work. I could sit and crtique at taxi all day long. I was and I am past needing to pay for that. It's a decent concept, a great community, and a money maker too- let's face it. After a year or so I dropped out. I don't have that kind of yearly budget any longer. Currently cultivating contacts on my own.

All good Bob! And best of luck to you too!

Dan

User Showcase
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 19,831
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 19,831
Hi Bob,

I thoroughly enjoyed the listen! In my opinion, all aspects of the song are as professional as they come. You've got a terrific voice. I've got to say that this is one of the best re-creations of period music that I have heard. There's definitely a place in the right film for this song.

All the best,
Noel


MY SONGS...
Audiophile BIAB 2025
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: VST3 Plugin Support

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® now includes support for VST3 plugins, alongside VST and AU. Use them with MIDI or audio tracks for even more creative possibilities in your music production.

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support

Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: Using VST3 Plugins

Join the conversation on our forum.

Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac Videos

With the release of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac, we’re rolling out a collection of brand-new videos on our YouTube channel. We’ll also keep this forum post updated so you can easily find all the latest videos in one convenient spot.

From overviews of new features and walkthroughs of the 202 new RealTracks, to highlights of XPro Styles PAK 8, Xtra Styles PAKs 18, the 2025 49-PAK, and in-depth tutorials — you’ll find everything you need to explore what’s new in Band-in-a-Box® 2025.

Reference this forum post for One-Stop Shopping of our Band-in-a-Box® 2025 Mac Videos — we’ll be adding more videos as they’re released!

Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac is Here!

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac is here, packed with major new features and an incredible collection of available new content! This includes 202 RealTracks (in Sets 449-467), plus 20 bonus Unreleased RealTracks in the 2025 49-PAK. There are new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 4, two new sets of “RealDrums Stems,” XPro Styles PAK 8, Xtra Styles PAK 19, and more!

Special Offers
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac with savings of up to 50% on most upgrade packages during our special—available until July 31, 2025! Visit our Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.

2025 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK Add-ons
We've packed our Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK with some incredible Add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is automatically included with most Band-in-a-Box® for Mac 2025 packages, but for even more Add-ons (including 20 Unreleased RealTracks!) upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49. You can see the full lists of items in each package, and listen to demos here.

If you have any questions, feel free to connect with us directly—we’re here to help!

Band-in-a-Box 2025 Italian Version is Here!

Cari amici
È stata aggerate la versione in Italiano del programma più amato dagli appassionati di musica, il nostro Band-in-a-Box.
Questo è il link alla nuova versione 2025.

Di seguito i link per scaricare il pacchetti di lingua italiana aggiornati per Band-in-a-Box e RealBand, anche per chi avesse già comprato la nuova versione in inglese.

Band-in-a-Box 2025 - Italiano
RealBand 2025 - Italiano

Band-in-a-Box 2025 French Version is Here!

Bonjour à tous,

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 pour Windows est disponible en Français.
Le téléchargement se fait à partir du site PG Music

Pour ceux qui auraient déjà acheté la version 2025 de Band-in-a-Box (et qui donc ont une version anglaise), il est possible de "franciser" cette version avec les patchs suivants:

BIAB 2025 - francisation
RealBand 2025 - francisation

Voilà, enjoy!

Band-in-a-Box 2025 German Version is Here!

Band-in-a-Box 2025 für Windows Deutsch ist verfügbar!

Die deutsche Version Band-in-a-Box® 2025 für Windows ist ab sofort verfügbar!

Alle die bereits die englische Version von Band-in-a-Box und RealBand 2024 installiert haben, finden hier die Installationsdateien für das Sprachenupdate:

https://nn.pgmusic.com/pgfiles/languagesupport/deutsch2025.exe
https://nn.pgmusic.com/pgfiles/languagesupport/deutsch2025RB.exe

Update Your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 to Build 1128 for Windows Today!

Already using Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Windows®? Download Build 1128 now from our Support Page to enjoy the latest enhancements and improvements from our team.

Stay up to date—get the latest update now!

Forum Statistics
Forums58
Topics84,298
Posts777,441
Members39,614
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
Newest Members
weedindubai, Claudio Paolini, bjornen71, CATBELLOU, Banjopotamus
39,613 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 148
zedd 120
DC Ron 106
nonchai 104
WaoBand 102
rsdean 86
Today's Birthdays
timbalera, WineRider
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5