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Hi Gang. I just had a great phone call with PG, but I still am a bit confused why there are two routes of upgrading my 2025 UltraPak. One is the 2025/2026 UltraPak upgrade which PG tells me is in one big install of any components that I do not have and it does not overwrite any material I already have. The other option is the 2026 PlusPak Upgrade which they tell me relegates me to two download processes if I need to reload everything in the future rather than one reload if I buy the more expensive upgrade version. This seems quite odd to me and frankly I really don't understand it and the nice guy at PG told me that he thinks it is curious as well. The price difference is $50. $149 for the UltraPak upgrade and $99 for the PlusPak upgrade. He tells me there is no real difference in the assets in each option. Can any of you put me out of my misery trying to understand this? Thanks so much. Like the older parts of the UI, this choice is hard to navigate!! 
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The Band-in-a-Box® UltraPAK is a comprehensive package that includes over 5,100 RealTracks/RealDrums, more than 7,500 styles (RealStyles & MIDI Styles), and over 4,500 hours of studio recording content. It serves as a foundational package with extensive content across various genres and features like MIDI SuperTracks, Artist Performances, and MIDI Soloists.
In contrast, the 2026 PlusPAK is an upgrade package that requires either the 2025 UltraPAK or UltraPAK+ to be purchased.
It includes version 2026 program updates and 202 new RealTracks (Sets 468–488), adding approximately 200 hours of new content. The PlusPAK is not a standalone package but rather an add-on designed to enhance existing UltraPAK or UltraPAK+ installations. While the UltraPAK provides a vast library of content, the PlusPAK focuses on incremental updates and new additions, making it suitable for users already invested in the UltraPAK ecosystem.
You are getting 200 new style track plus the Free 2026 Bonus Pak.
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The Band-in-a-Box® UltraPAK is a comprehensive package that includes over 5,100 RealTracks/RealDrums, more than 7,500 styles (RealStyles & MIDI Styles), and over 4,500 hours of studio recording content. It serves as a foundational package with extensive content across various genres and features like MIDI SuperTracks, Artist Performances, and MIDI Soloists.
In contrast, the 2026 PlusPAK is an upgrade package that requires either the 2025 UltraPAK or UltraPAK+ to be purchased.
It includes version 2026 program updates and 202 new RealTracks (Sets 468–488), adding approximately 200 hours of new content. The PlusPAK is not a standalone package but rather an add-on designed to enhance existing UltraPAK or UltraPAK+ installations. While the UltraPAK provides a vast library of content, the PlusPAK focuses on incremental updates and new additions, making it suitable for users already invested in the UltraPAK ecosystem.
You are getting 200 new style track plus the Free 2026 Bonus Pak. Thank you. I do understand all of that and I do have the 2025 UltraPak. Is using the 2026 UltraPak upgrade route then a waste of money for me, since I already have the 2025 UltraPak? (I suspect this option is really designed for people upgrading from lesser Paks such as the ProPak or MegaPak) Is there anything I miss out on my going with the cheaper $99 2026 PlusPak upgrade? The PG person had me a bit confused about differences in install procedures between the two. Seems silly to waste $50 if not needed.
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The PlusPak 2026 upgrade is designed to be installed over the top of your current BIAB 2025. By installing over the top of your existing installation, you literally convert your 2025 UltraPak into the 2026 UltraPak. The 49Pak is extra whatever route you decide to go. This extra add-on contains some additional material that is not in either the 2026 UltraPak or the 2026 PlusPak.
Most people on here who use the UltraPak, upgrade on a yearly basis using the PlusPak. For years, I used the PlusPak to convert each of my previous year's version of the program into the most recent version.
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2025
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"Is there anything I miss out on my going with the cheaper $99 2026 PlusPak upgrade?" NO.
You should purchase the PlusPak. It is an upgrade to your 2025 UltraPak. It will include all of the new content while saving all of your previous contents, i.e. styles, RTs, RDs, etc.
I have been getting the PlusPaks for a number of years now.
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Thank you for these answers! After talking with PG again they kept mentioning one downside to the PlusPak upgrades especially if done year after year. They said that IF you have to do a reinstall, or reinstall to a new computer, then you have to install piece meal and sequentially. So as in my case, reinstall 2025 UltraPak then after that is finished, install PlusPak 2006. If you continue to buy sequential PlusPaks over the next several years, then you can have a very long chain of sequential installs. Also if you have bought add-ons, those will have to be reinstalled individually as well. So they recommended for ease of recovery, the more expensive UltraPak upgrade is much more convenient for these possible eventualities.
Does anyone here have any experience with this reinstalling issue?
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The information about re-installing is correct. The net result with however you reinstall, though, is that the total number of files that end up in the \bb\ installation are exactly the same. For example, lets say that BIAB 2025 has 20,000 files (this is just a random number) and BIAB 2026 has 25,000 files (another random number). This means that to go from BIAB 2025 to 2026, 5,000 files need to be added and the engines that drive BIAB need to be updated. The PlusPak contains the extra files. The USB drive with the complete install of 2026, also has the same 25,000 files that are used to create \bb\ installation.
With PG Music's installation manager, it really isn't an issue to install the parent version and then the upgrades. The installation process is very streamlined these days.
I'm not sure if you're aware, but PG Music have a refund policy that operates within 30 days of purchase. If you purchase the PlusPak and then decide you want the full installation on a USB drive, PG Music will definitely look after you. They are the best company that I have ever dealt with on the internet.
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2025
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The information about re-installing is correct. The net result with however you reinstall, though, is that the total number of files that end up in the \bb\ installation are exactly the same. For example, lets say that BIAB 2025 has 20,000 files (this is just a random number) and BIAB 2026 has 25,000 files (another random number). This means that to go from BIAB 2025 to 2026, 5,000 files need to be added and the engines that drive BIAB need to be updated. The PlusPak contains the extra files. The USB drive with the complete install of 2026, also has the same 25,000 files that are used to create \bb\ installation.
With PG Music's installation manager, it really isn't an issue to install the parent version and then the upgrades. The installation process is very streamlined these days.
I'm not sure if you're aware, but PG Music have a refund policy that operates within 30 days of purchase. If you purchase the PlusPak and then decide you want the full installation on a USB drive, PG Music will definitely look after you. They are the best company that I have ever dealt with on the internet. Noel thanks so much for your usual super clear response! I feel more informed now and will probably go the PlusPak route which saves some money. Good for me because really all I want is two of the new jazz Paks and will probably enjoy the upgraded UI. If one really wanted to reduce the cost of upgrading, then the cheapest method would be a full upgrade every two years which would pencil out to $75 a year. (just did this calculation for fun). Thanks again Noel; I so value your help!
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FYI - there are programs that will transfer programs from one computer to another. Someday I will be getting a Win 11 system for my studio. I am planning on using one of these programs. Hopefully it will move all of my PGM software, and other software, to my Win 11 computer. Here are a couple of those programs: https://www.easeus.com/pc-transfer-software/pctrans-pro.htmlhttps://www.diskpart.com/partition-manager-pro-edition.html?prevod=%2Farticles%2Ftransfer-installed-program-to-another-pc-windows-10-0825 Does anyone have any experience with such a transfer program? Note that I am talking about software programs and not files like pictures, MS word, excel, etc.
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Hi MarioD. You can use an old HD in a new machine OR if you want an upgraded HD (perhaps to SSD) and one usually does, I use a cloning software to clone the old drive to a new one and then use that new cloned HD in the new computer. Now if your old computer was on say, Windows 10 and you cannot upgrade it to Windows 11 first (perhaps because of the MS restrictions on Win 11 compatible hardware) then it becomes a little more complicated. You might have to put a Win 10 clone into the new computer and then upgrade the OS to win 11. I have not had that experience because whenever I have cloned and moved, I am not changing OS version, but I suspect it can be done.
Cloning software I have used has either been a utility included in a virus scan product or in a backup program product. (currently I am using Hasleo free backup software and I see that it does have a variety of cloning tools). One usually needs an external HD adapter into which to place the new internal HD so that the clone can take place from your Computer to this new HD. Then you just place the newly cloned HD (take it out of the external case and put it into the new computer) and boot.
I just recently did this on a new computer. I hope some of these comments helped.
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Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows is Here!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows is here and it is packed with major new features! There’s a new modern look, a GUI redesign to all areas of the program including toolbars, windows, workflow and more. There’s a Multi-view layout for organizing multiple windows. A standout addition is the powerful AI-Notes feature, which uses AI neural-net technology to transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI—entire mixes or individual instruments—making it easy to study, view, and play parts from any song. And that’s just the beginning—there are over 60 new features in this exciting release.
Along with version 2026, we've released an incredible lineup of new content! There's 202 new RealTracks, brand-new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two new RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!
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Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows and save up to 50% on most upgrade packages during our special offer—available until December 31, 2025. Visit our Band-in-a-Box® packages page to explore all available upgrade options.
2026 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK Add-ons
Our Free Bonus PAK and 49-PAK are loaded with amazing add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is included with most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows packages, but you can unlock even more—including 20 unreleased RealTracks—by upgrading to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49. Browse the full contents of each package and listen to demos here.
XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!
XPro & Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!
The XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAKs special offers are now available until August 31st at 11:59pm PDT!
Ready to take your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 experience to the next level? Now’s the perfect time! Expand your style library with XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs—packed with a wide variety of genres to inspire your next musical creation.
What are XPro Styles and Xtra Styles PAKs?
XPro Styles PAKs are styles that work with any version (Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition) of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). XPro Styles PAKS 1-9 includes 900 styles!
Xtra Styles PAKs are styles that work with the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). With over 3,500 styles (and 35 MIDI styles) included in Xtra Styles PAKs 1-20, the possibilities are endless!
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Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Get Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 19 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 19 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Don’t miss this chance to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box setup—at a great price!
Mac 2025 Special Upgrade Offers Extended Until August 15th!
It's not too late to upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® and save! We've extended our special until August 15, 2025!
We've added many major new features to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, including advanced AI tools like the amazing BB Stem Splitter and AI Lyrics Generator, as well as VST3 plugin support, and Equalize Temp. Plus, there’s a new one-stop MIDI Patches Picker with over 1,100 MIDI patches to choose from, all neatly categorized by GM numbers. The MultiPicker Library is enhanced with tabs for the SongPicker, MIDI Patch Picker, Chord Builder, AI Lyrics Generator, and Song Titles Browser, and the tabs are organized into logical groups. The Audiophile Edition is enhanced with FLAC files , which are 60% smaller than AIFF files while maintaining identical audio quality, and now ships on a fast 1TB SSD, and much more!
Check out all the new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® here:
Purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac during our special to save up to 50% off your upgrade purchase and receive a FREE BONUS PAK of amazing new Add-ons. These include the 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK, Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana, Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes, MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano, Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7, Playable RealTracks Set 4, RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark, and more!
Upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and add 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and 20 RealStyles, FLAC Files for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks, Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster, MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster, Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8, and RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe.
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs!
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