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Anyone use this yet? I'm trying it, but it's quite slow. It's doing a lot of work, I'm sure...


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I’ll try to find the time estimate I read. You do have to give it time to work, just like rendering a mix to audio. I recall it’s faster than real time but close.


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It is quite slow, it is just to wait, but it seems works fine.


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No stem splitting, but I found teh Transcibe tool to be very favorable in my testing.

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I just tried it on a Carole King pop tune, and it did a creditable job (I used stems) of recreating a MIDI version of the tune. Melody had some glitches, but overall, captured the feel of the tune, and the chords, bassline and drums were amazingly accurate.


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After some testing, I have mixed results with this feature. While the transcription tool works relatively well (not perfect, of course, but I don't expect perfect results using these type of this tools , and understand that some manual correction is always necessary), the problem comes when trying to align an imported audio file with bars in BIAB.

The ACW has always been too unreliable in this sense to be really useful to me. After syncing the whole song with the L shortcut as described in the manual and in some vídeos, the audio, sooner or later, just get out of sync for no apparent reason in MOST (not all) of the cases, which is REALLY frustrating. And yes, I've tried the "Equalize tempo" feature: it doesn't help.

Having a MIDI transcription of an audio track completely out of sync with bars is not really useful for my use (which would be export the midi to Musescore to finish the job there), so I'll continue using other third party tools for this job

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I haven’t tried this feature of BIAB yet but I have a wild guess about the sync issue. Do your digital audio devices have a word clock connection? What does your audio interface and MIDI synth (if you have an external one) sync to? Is it set to Internal? What model is your audio interface? Is everything set to 44.1?


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Originally Posted by Matt Finley
I haven’t tried this feature of BIAB yet but I have a wild guess about the sync issue. Do your digital audio devices have a word clock connection? What does your audio interface and MIDI synth (if you have an external one) sync to? Is it set to Internal? What model is your audio interface? Is everything set to 44.1?

Thanks Matt. I've had this problem with BIAB for years, with different computers and different audio interfaces. All other audio programs I use work just fine.

I've also read other users with similar experience. I'm pretty sure that if you try, you'll also see smile

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Same for me. The ACW alignment challenge I grappled with for a full year and have given up. And believe me I tried so hard with the wonderful help of those on this board. I ran all kinds of experiments and still no repeatability and the complexity was just off the charts in my opinion. I now use Song Master Pro where I simply drag and drop the audio file onto the interface and BAM! everything is aligned and analyzed including auto pitch correction for an old poorly mastered recording from the tape days. Then a one button push and BAM! the stems are split and MIDI created. It makes me sad because I really want to do this with BIAB, but I just can't take the complexity and unreliability anymore. I am not complaining here, but just expressing my disappointment and frustration because I really like the core function of BB with its RT sound quality and the customer support is just fabulous. But other software for the AI features and non Real Track features are just so much better and so much less expensive in other applications.

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I don’t think it’s a weakness when a digital audio program does just one thing well, and doesn’t try to add every other feature.


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Originally Posted by Matt Finley
I don’t think it’s a weakness when a digital audio program does just one thing well, and doesn’t try to add every other feature.

I am beginning to see the wisdom in this comment. Thanks for posting it. It helps orient me to the reality (my perception of it) at hand.

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Only a thought.
Maybe it is easier to have a feature that sets the time map based on the midi view rather than the ACW.
It might be easier for a user to mark were the bars should be in a midi view rather than in the ACW.


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I think BIAB would need to support non-integer tempos for that to work properly.


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Originally Posted by Matt Finley
I think BIAB would need to support non-integer tempos for that to work properly.
That has been a request since almost forever. I'm still puzzled why that hasn't been embraced. Real Band can do it with the same Real & MIDI Tracks that BIAB uses.


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