Originally Posted by MarioD
You've got to admit that listening to free form jazz is very edgy - ducking and running for cover.
Here is where terminology and vocabulary is crucial.
I’m not convinced that free form jazz is edgy per how my definition of “edge” is developing.

Rather I would describe free form jazz (at least the bit of “Out to Lunch” that I listened to) as atonal, non-harmonic, dissonant and altogether non-inspiring and unpleasing. I would also add structureless, untethered from traditional expectations and unmoored from any “home base”. Indeed, I’d say that this genre blurs the boundaries of what it means to be music and I could see how many would not consider it music at all because of the difficulty in understanding it. Would the typical non-musican consider this music? Is it organized sound? I’d say yes, but so is a fire truck’s siren or the sound of a truck with no muffler.

In my opinion, most people have a boundary beyond which music become non-music. Do you consider this performance music?

Music?

“Edge” on the other hand I’d say can easily be compatible with what most of the world considers music. And can be increased up to a point before crossing the music/non-music boundary.


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